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Re: The Lusitania Sinking & Philips Park Cemetery
« Reply #81 on: Wednesday 02 December 09 09:11 GMT (UK) »


Hi :)

Thank you for those inscriptions, Annie!  Fascinating reading!  Just shows there may be loads of other family memorials to the men involved. :)

So with that in mind, a  bit of a cheek I kjnow, but if anyone os going through any such site, and they see anything on a James Hoey, please could they let me know. 

He has an address given on CWEGC in Dundalk.  It looks as if my Lancashire Hoeys came from that area via Dublin.  Also, that crew list includes many of the surnames of Godparents and people close by or families married into, eg Donoghue, Moran etc.

I'll also look in siyes for over in the area in Ireland later, but this was started and this is where they ended up.

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HOEY, Mr. James
lived at 4 Mary Street (South) in Dundalk.  Commonwealth War Graves lists his age as 23.
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 Dundalk, Louth, Ireland
Hoey : Louth, Dublin, Lancashire,
Diggle: Pendleton Lancashire,
Stickley: Dorset, Lancashire
Bockmann, Boedemann etc Artist, Europe and London

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Re: The Lusitania Sinking & Philips Park Cemetery
« Reply #82 on: Wednesday 02 December 09 14:17 GMT (UK) »


On the Irish board they have this ...  :) might be worth a "punt" ......

As part of their 150th anniversary celebrations the Irish Times Digital Archive will be free to access from November 30th to December 14th.

website : http://www.irishtimes.com/search/archive.html

The offer only lets you look at Daily Irish Times articles.
But when you interrogate the data base it refers you to Weekly Irish Times articles as well as Daily Irish Times articles, and you cannot view those without a subscription.
Cooper : Muels : Howarth : Every : Price : King

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Re: The Lusitania Sinking & Philips Park Cemetery
« Reply #83 on: Wednesday 02 December 09 14:41 GMT (UK) »
OOh Annie

Thank you! :)
Thank you! :)
Thank you!  :)

What a timely piece of news! ;)

I will be onto that as soon as I get time to play!  Lataer :'( ::) ::) ::) :'(

IO'l let you know how I get on!

Thank you again!

Emms :)
Hoey : Louth, Dublin, Lancashire,
Diggle: Pendleton Lancashire,
Stickley: Dorset, Lancashire
Bockmann, Boedemann etc Artist, Europe and London

English Merchants in Brazil and Portugal especially Carruthers family

1st Battalion Connaught rangers WW1

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Re: The Lusitania Sinking & Philips Park Cemetery
« Reply #84 on: Tuesday 22 December 09 17:42 GMT (UK) »
Further to posts #66 and #68 from Emms and Ken respectively:

I have obtained a copy of George Arthur GILPIN's will from the York Record Office. He left everything to his mother, Elaza Mary Cawthorne GILPIN amounting to Pds.8953. His will was drawn up in San Salvador in 1909. His mother died in 1924 and left Pds. 13841, to be shared between her three remaining children, Walter, Lily (my grandma) and Rose. I have also learnt that Walter travelled to Ireland to identify George Arthur's body, after the sinking of the Lusitania. GA was almost certainly buried in Ireland although where I am not sure, but suspect it was in one of the communal graves.

Thanks to both of you for your interest, and for the summary of Gilpin information that you posted on 14 May, Ken.
Hello Warwick B
I am new to this ancestors trail.However Rose was my G.aunt and I think I can shine some light on why the twins were split up.Also I have a couple of photos about 1895 and 1913 which may ring a bell.

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Re: The Lusitania Sinking & Philips Park Cemetery
« Reply #85 on: Tuesday 22 December 09 18:08 GMT (UK) »
Hello & welcome Pete to Rootschat.
Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Migky  ;)

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Re: The Lusitania Sinking & Philips Park Cemetery
« Reply #86 on: Tuesday 22 December 09 18:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi Peter0

Welcome to rootschat.

We all look forward to your contribution to this ever expanding story  :)

Ken
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Re: The Lusitania Sinking & Philips Park Cemetery
« Reply #87 on: Tuesday 22 December 09 21:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Peter0

Welcome to rootschat.

We all look forward to your contribution to this ever expanding story  :)

Ken
Hello Ken
I think the most interesting question is How did GA go form rags in Monton c1891to riches at his death in 1915.It has been suggested that he was Vice Consel this may be true but it is not a full time and would not make him rich.Also he was a banker or a water engineer but he describes himself in 1909 as a merchant.His traveling companion John White Hinds engineer may give a clue.(He may also have been on Lusitania but not all agree)
Also how did Eliza a dressmaker turn £9000 in 1915 to £14000 in 1924 as she also a financial genius?

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Re: The Lusitania Sinking & Philips Park Cemetery
« Reply #88 on: Wednesday 23 December 09 01:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi Peter0 :)

Welcome to Rootschat!

How fasinating!

Definitely something to sleep on!  Thank you for giving us the benefit of your family knowledge.

Best wishes

Emms :)
Hoey : Louth, Dublin, Lancashire,
Diggle: Pendleton Lancashire,
Stickley: Dorset, Lancashire
Bockmann, Boedemann etc Artist, Europe and London

English Merchants in Brazil and Portugal especially Carruthers family

1st Battalion Connaught rangers WW1

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Re: The Lusitania Sinking & Philips Park Cemetery
« Reply #89 on: Saturday 16 January 10 13:21 GMT (UK) »
Hello Emms,
Sorry to disturb you sleep,but I asked the questions so I had better answer them.
G A Gilpin was a merchant exporting coffee importing machinery electric trains water pumps etc.
Hinds W J did not sail either by accident or otherwise died in San Salvador 1937
The German government were forced by the allies to compensate relatives of the Lusitania victims after WW1 English seemed to be worth 5000 Dollars Americans 12,500 dollars.So this may have helped Elizas finances also.

To return to the original topic of grave hunting,according to the New York times reports after 4days 147 bodies had been found 43 American or Canadian,1 belgian 1 welsh 3 English 22 crew.Strange since 90% of passengers were English.57 were not identified.The American coffins were draped the the stars and stripes for a photo opportunity.After 6 days there was a funny small in Queenstown so they buried 149 in three graves A B C two layers 25 in each layer.
An American diplomat visited the graves in 1917 and complained that they untended,also the only memorial erected read "Vengance is mine sayeth the Lord"
Do we have another suspect in the "who sunk the Lusitania saga"?

Peter0