SIVES - East Lothian - 1650/1890

[tidybooks]

Hi Norberto,

That is good news, it will be good to see it, although, you may have to amend your tree, due to age difference etc.

I have seen an Archibald and Mary Sives family in 1861 census in Staffordshire, England, but young Archibald is shown as 5, so born in 1855 probably. So that is 10 years out, and he was born in England although his father, Archibald was Scottish.

Tom

[norbersives]

If I'm anxious to see that certificate.
Thank you Tom.
And when you have it, if you want to send your email, we will analyze it. Gladly I share it.
regards

Norberto

[tidybooks]

Hi Norberto,

Sent my email address on the Personal Message (PM) system of RootsChat.

Tom

[tidybooks]

Hi Norberto,

Here is a birth record of Archibald Sives born in 1813.
Sives, Archibald
Parents - Charles Sives / Susan Campbell
Male
18/01/1813
at Dirleton, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian)

705/30 135 (Reference number of record - https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk)


As you can see from the 1861 England Census, the oldest daughter was named Susannah Campbell Sives, who is named after her paternal grandmother. First son is Charles after his paternal grandfather


Tom

[MonicaL]

Hi Norberto and Tom

Been away a few weeks and just catching up...

Has there been any confirmation from Argentinian records on Archibald's approximate birth year?

Worried about the 10 yr gap that Tom has already mentioned before (1845 v. 1855 birth year).

Monica 

[MonicaL]

I have found out on the other hand that my great-grandfather Archibald Sives (1845-1916) can be the son of Archibald Sives (1813-1893) and Mary Alcock (1817-1892).
Located in Bushbury, Staffordshire,, England

There are numerous family trees showing Archibald, son of Archibald and Mary (Alcock) Sives, as having married a Rachel Brooks in January 1883 in Carnock, Staffordshire.

1891 census for this couple here https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:42RT-53Z and 1901 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9TS-LDQ

I can't see anywhere details showing Archibald's father's name from the 1883 marriage cert to be able to confirm that he is indeed the son of Archilbald Snr. But, enough there to make me concerned that we don't have the correct roots for Archilbald in Argentina...

Monica

[norbersives]

I got these documents. I still have to confirm the date of my great-grandfather's birth.

baptism


married sives-alcock


censo 1861

[MonicaL]

As you mention, you need to try to confirm your g grandfather's approx birth year from documents in Argentina at the very least to help you further now I would suggest. Have you and family enquiries as to whether there are copies of his marriage, death and burial records?

There is a possible death showing for the Archibald, son of Archibald Sives and Mary Alcock in 1940 in Bradford, aged 85 (fitting well an 1855 birth year). This is also where Archibald and wife Rachel showed in later years. Rachel died in 1922 it seems. Cannot be the same Archibald that you are searching for and no other candidate showing in England in those times that you are looking at 

Monica

[MonicaL]

Sorry, posted something twice in error

Monica