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Re: DAVIDSON family - NEWBURGH 1893/KIRKCALDY FROM 1908
« Reply #63 on: Saturday 11 December 10 20:56 GMT (UK) »
Lovely photo Chiad.

Just think what you saved by having the snow come to you.

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Davidson, Black, Wishart: Fife, Shaw,Morton, McNeice, Gray: Antrim/Scotland
Aldred, Wright, Kirkman, Hurst,Byrom, Hart, Grimshaw,Openshaw. Wilkinson: Lancashire
Hughes: Mold/Wigan
Cubby, Williamson: Cumberland/Wigan

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Re: DAVIDSON family - NEWBURGH 1893/KIRKCALDY FROM 1908
« Reply #64 on: Sunday 12 December 10 19:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi GrandmaSheila and jimmijam

This is the link to the Great War Forum site for some useful answers ... http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=157056

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Aye mair questions than answers in a world where the past was a different place - that cannae be revisited!

Family surnames being researched ...
Crawford, Neilson, Lindsay, Reekie, Davidson
Drummond, Laing, Pearson, Tulloch ... will do for starters but there's a whole lot more!

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Re: DAVIDSON family - NEWBURGH 1893/KIRKCALDY FROM 1908
« Reply #65 on: Saturday 08 January 11 16:54 GMT (UK) »
Barbara Davidson born  September 1907 died 12th September 1908 aged 11 months from Measles and her twin Robina died on the 14th September 1908 also from Measles.

They died at Clinton Street, Newburgh, Fife

The family ran Sweerie Lodging House in Newburgh which looking at the map would appear to have been in Clinton Street (there is a Sweerie Area listed).

Does anyone know if the houses are still there - on Google Maps there are some large properties painted white and I think it says Clinton Street on the wall.

Can anyone help?
Davidson, Black, Wishart: Fife, Shaw,Morton, McNeice, Gray: Antrim/Scotland
Aldred, Wright, Kirkman, Hurst,Byrom, Hart, Grimshaw,Openshaw. Wilkinson: Lancashire
Hughes: Mold/Wigan
Cubby, Williamson: Cumberland/Wigan

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Re: DAVIDSON family - NEWBURGH 1893/KIRKCALDY FROM 1908
« Reply #66 on: Saturday 12 March 11 22:08 GMT (UK) »
Not long now until the 1911 Census is available - perhaps at last we will find 'Our Wullie'.
Davidson, Black, Wishart: Fife, Shaw,Morton, McNeice, Gray: Antrim/Scotland
Aldred, Wright, Kirkman, Hurst,Byrom, Hart, Grimshaw,Openshaw. Wilkinson: Lancashire
Hughes: Mold/Wigan
Cubby, Williamson: Cumberland/Wigan


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Re: DAVIDSON family - NEWBURGH 1893/KIRKCALDY FROM 1908
« Reply #67 on: Thursday 28 April 11 12:34 BST (UK) »
We still didn't find him - went on to the 1911 the day it was out.  Does anyone know anything about 'our wullie'?? :'(
Davidson, Black, Wishart: Fife, Shaw,Morton, McNeice, Gray: Antrim/Scotland
Aldred, Wright, Kirkman, Hurst,Byrom, Hart, Grimshaw,Openshaw. Wilkinson: Lancashire
Hughes: Mold/Wigan
Cubby, Williamson: Cumberland/Wigan

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Re: DAVIDSON family - NEWBURGH 1893/KIRKCALDY FROM 1908
« Reply #68 on: Monday 08 August 11 23:01 BST (UK) »
 :o ::) :o ::)
Still looking!!!
Davidson, Black, Wishart: Fife, Shaw,Morton, McNeice, Gray: Antrim/Scotland
Aldred, Wright, Kirkman, Hurst,Byrom, Hart, Grimshaw,Openshaw. Wilkinson: Lancashire
Hughes: Mold/Wigan
Cubby, Williamson: Cumberland/Wigan

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Re: DAVIDSON family - NEWBURGH 1893/KIRKCALDY FROM 1908
« Reply #69 on: Friday 12 August 11 15:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Sheila and Chiad,

I had a fresh look over your thread again, and I'm not sure if I've got anything substantial, more like a lot of suppositions, but I thought I'd post what I've got - its in several parts, because its a bit long. Pop the kettle on, make a cuppa and come back...

I checked on Ancestry for all William's born to a mother Barbara, concentrating on the Fife/Ayrshire/Aberdour angle.  The William born to Barbara in Aberdour c1861 of the 1861 census, was married to Aggie in 1901, so I ruled that one out.

I also came across a William Davidson, born 1861, living in Beath, (birth place of Mary Black) living on his own means in the 1901 census:

1901 Scotland Census about Wm Davidson
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Where born: Burntisland, Fifeshire
Registration Number: 410
Registration district: Beath
Civil parish: Beath
County: Fife
Address: 90 Union St
Occupation: Living On Own Means

However, cross referencing the Burntisland birth place, I found a William Davidson born to James Davidson and Mary Robertson, 1860.  Its looking increasingly likely, using IGI and Ancestry, that William, born Ayr is yours.

End of Part One...
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Re: DAVIDSON family - NEWBURGH 1893/KIRKCALDY FROM 1908
« Reply #70 on: Friday 12 August 11 15:41 BST (UK) »
Part Two

Then, I wondered whether "Randolf", William Davidson's middle name, was a family name and combined it with Hardy, and found this on IGI:



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This is interesting as it has the connections:
Forename: Randolph; Surname:Hardie; plus the Fife Location

Could there be a Hardy family connection between William Randolph Davidson, presumed son of Barbara Davidson, nee Hardy living in Fife and Randolf Hardy of Fife?

Here's what I found out:

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So checking back, according to 1861 census, Thomas Hardy (father to Randolph) was born in 1828 in Leslie, Fife. Checking on the IGI gives his parents:
Thomas Hardie married Helen McPherson 2nd April 1826 in Leslie, Fife.  Thomas Hardie born to Thomas Hardie and Helen McPherson 12th August 1826 in Leslie, Fife.

I'm now working on the presumption of a family connection between Thomas Hardy and Barbara Hardy or Hardie, possibly William Randolph Davidson's mother. 

Continued in part three
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Re: DAVIDSON family - NEWBURGH 1893/KIRKCALDY FROM 1908
« Reply #71 on: Friday 12 August 11 15:46 BST (UK) »
Part three...

So I'm checking back on Barbara Hardie, supposed mother of William Randolph Davidson, based on 1861 info regarding her birth place, and I found this on IGI:
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Could Thomas Hardy of Leslie, Fife, be connected to Barbara and therefore William Hardie of New Cumnock?  There's a submitted IGI marriage for William Hardie to Agnes Campbell for Ochiltree, Ayrshire, 1827, which says he comes from England (?).  However, as its a submitted entry, we'd need to see original data, so I'll move on from this.

So I'm now looking to trace back birth records for William Hardy and Thomas Hardy of Leslie, Fife, and after a lot of sifting and cross checking:

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These births could provide a tie between the Hardies (wasn't there a tv programme The Hardy Boys?), but...I can't find William on any census, which might provide other facts to check.

So could William Hardie of Leslie, Fife be the William Hardie that married Campbell of New Cumnock, and had a daughter Barbara?  It might explain the Fife/Ayrshire connection of William Randolph Davidson...

but we of course, we might be manipulating the data to suit our own ends...

So that's it for now, let me know what you both think.

I'm not sure if we've got anywhere, and there's a lot of suppositions but maybe others can help.

Best wishes, Jimmijam

PS I thought I'd give this another look see, as yesterday I found the death records of my gt, and gt gt grandfather's (who had really common names), thanks to the wonders of the Ancestry Probabe Records. So don't give up, it only took me two decades...
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