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[karenlee]

Janet

Let us know what you know about the ones that came to Queensland so that we don't duplicate any BMD, etc.  Perhaps if you PM me and Ruskie then we can avoid taking up heaps of space on this thread.....

Immigration really only needs 2 dates... when you last have them in Scotland and when you first find them in Australia.... it can be narrowed down from there.

Might just take you up on the Liverpool offer one of these days... Mr Karenlee's family came from Little Woolton..... so perhaps....

Karenlee

[Ruskie]

Hi Janet,

I've just been through your other post and taken a few notes for myself so I don't get confused  .

A list of things you already have and things you want found would be useful.

If you've found any Qld BMD's just names and dates would be enough for me (not sure if or what Karen may need) no ref numbers needed.

I've got a few questions - some general, and some which may have been already answered in your other post but I may have missed or would like clarification:

Robert Mc Gavin and Mary Reid - is Mary his first wife? Is Margaret Skelly his second wife?

Do you think the whole family came to Australia? That spiel about Matthew said that he arrived in Brisbane in August 1863 which is a great clue  .

Would you like me to try to find wills for those whose deaths have been found? In case I run out of time let me know which one's you'd like me to search for first. I can always go back another day to look for the others.

Any names (and approx dates if you have any idea) of other births marriages and deaths you'd like looked up on the fiche?

Think that's about all ...  

Yep, my OH's rellies are from L'pool so you might regret that offer  . I love Liverpool - I know there's a lot of building work going on there at the moment so I hope the character is retained. I hope it's not being too 'done up' or over done - I do worry that sometimes restorations/renovations can go too far.

[fridayjan]

Hi Ruskie and Karenlee,

I've got to go out soon, but will PM you later.   Just to answer a few of your questions,

Robert McGavin's parents were .....  Robert McGavin and Mary Reid.  As far as I can see, Margaret Skelly was his 1st wife, and just to complicate things they had a son called Robert too, as did Robert's brother Matthew.  You can see why I'm easily confused!!  I'm waiting for a film to come into the LDS to see if any of Robert and Margaret's sons had middle names listed when they were christened.

I think from looking at the QLD records that the whole family went to Australia as I've found all the children over there, with the possible exceptions of Robert and William - but again it's difficult to tell as there are a few to choose from! 

There is lots of building work going on in Liverpool at the moment, especially towards the Albert Dock/Waterfront area - a massive new shopping complex and lots of apartment blocks (I'm not sure quite who is going to buy them all!!).  There was an interesting episode of Time Team on TV last week looking at the remains of Liverpool's first dock which was uncovered during all the digging which is well worth watching if you ever get the chance.

Will be back later on,

Janet

[karenlee]

Janet

Just let me know what, if any, BMD or Electoral Roll information you need from Queensland and I can go check it out for you.  If there are any newspapers from the time that mght have obits/funeral notices I can do that too.

Karenlee

[Ruskie]

Looking for obits is a good idea Karenlee. Surely there should be something with such a high profile family.

When are you thinking of going to the State Library? I might try to get to the Archives this week on Thursday or Friday. We need to decide who will look for what  .

PS. Just quickly read through Janet's PM telling us what she knows about the family. I've got to go out now, but will re-read carefully later and make a list of lookups required and will contact you via PM later. 

[karenlee]

Hi Ruskie

Just made it back in myself.....

Will be going to the State Library tomorrow, and can do any BMD, Electoral Roll and newspaper lookups that Janet needs.  Wills and Immigration are more the Archives, and that's a real hike for me.  I live almost Inner City, and the Library is a 10 minute bus ride away.  If that okay with you of course.

Karenlee

[Ruskie]

Hi Karen,

Well, for you to look up the obits and me to look up the wills we need deaths  , so that might be a good place to start.

I'll start that list now and get back to you.

[MarieC]

I have tried Find My Past but (from what I can see) their records start in 1890 and I think the McGavin's must have moved between 1861 (they were in Scotland) and 1866 (when Mary Reid McGavin married Henry Marsh). 

Karenlee and Ruskie, your blood's worth bottling, both of you! 

Just wanted to answer Janet's point above.  I have been advised that English emigration records, at least what has been preserved, only start in 1890, which is why FindMyPast starts there.  It's a blooming nuisance, as I wanted to check a couple of mine who came earlier.  Certainly one can check shipping records at this end, but sometimes it would be helpful to check who was leaving England and where from...  Oh well!

MarieC

[Ruskie]

Thanks Marie 

Yes it would be good if we were able to check who was leaving as well as arriving. I didn't even know those records existed on FindMyPast - too late for my lot, but worth making a note of.

Do you know what kind of information you would expect to see on these records?

It appears that the later arrival records have more information than the earlier ones (where you only get a name ... if you're lucky  ) - I've even found some which include photos (early 1900's I think and not my family unfortunately).

Just wondering how much information the authorities would bother taking about someone who is leaving the country?