Can anyone help me in Maryland?

[johnnyboy]

Hi Carol: Good news. Phyllis is buried with her husband.

Arlington National Cemetery is probably the most important cemetery in the U.S. And spouses are permitted to be buried there. So I thought it odd that your post said that Phyllis wasn't buried there with her husband.

You can search for her burial at the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs Nationwide Gravesite locator here: http://gravelocator.cem.va.gov/j2ee/servlet/NGL_v1

Make sure you select Arlington National Cemetery in the pull down menu, since there are two cemeteries listed with the name Arlington.

The grave is also on Findagrave.com, which is where I searched first. You can see Phyllis' entry and a picture of the gravestone here: http://www.rootschat.com/links/0f7a/

They seem to be buried in an above-ground mausoleum. The initials YNC indicate that Matthew McGuire was a Yeoman Chief Petty Officer, the senior enlisted rank in the Navy. Given his date of birth, he probably served during World War II

Hope this helps.

John 

[shellyesq]

I don't how or if you'd be able to get further information from this, but Phyllis' estate is included in this index:  http://jportal.mdcourts.gov/willsandtrusts/index.jsf

I found a possible lead on one of her children, which I will send you via private message.

[carol8353]

Hi Johnnyboy

My original posting was in 2008 I have since discovered that they are buried together,thanks  I now even have a photo of their grave.

That's interesting about the post he held,and yes he did serve during WW2 and after,the family were noted onboard a ship heading back from Guam in 1951.

Shelley- thanks so much for the PM,funnily enough someone also PM'd me last night with the wills website and it does confirm what I'd found, that her daughter still seems to be nearby ,and has reverted back to her maiden name.

From the names of the interested parties to that will,it looks very much as though the older daughter has died-now that's a shame as she is the one we are keen to find!

My pal whose mum grew up living next door to Phyllis in England is going to write to that Gaithersburg address.

Fingers crossed!

Carol

[johnnyboy]

Hi Carol: I'm glad you're as far along in the hunt as you are. My search for Phyllis's burial site took about a minute on Findagrave and another few minutes to confirm it by a search of Arlington National Cemetery.

Regards,
John 

[carol8353]

Hi Carol: I'm glad you're as far along in the hunt as you are. My search for Phyllis's burial site took about a minute on Findagrave and another few minutes to confirm it by a search of Arlington National Cemetery.

Regards,
John 

Hi all, I have just returned to this query and find to my horror that I never  responded to your final comment.

Shelley,you very kindly found me Phyllis's will http://jportal.mdcourts.gov/willsandtrusts/index.jsf
Can anyone tell me which of the 9 parts of it we need to buy to tell us more about the family?

My pal wrote to the Gaithersburg address but did not get a reply,our theory is that they've all moved away 

We think that one of the girls reverted back to her maiden name but the oldest one married and has moved away(or died),I'm hoping that part of her mum's will may give us a lead to her married surname or any children any of them might have had.

Many thanks

Carol

[shellyesq]

I would think the Last Will and Testament would include people that she was leaving her estate to and may include their addresses or the towns where they lived at the time.  The list of interested persons might mention family members as well.

[carol8353]

I would think the Last Will and Testament would include people that she was leaving her estate to and may include their addresses or the towns where they lived at the time.  The list of interested persons might mention family members as well.

Thanks Shelley 

[johnnyboy]

I would think the Last Will and Testament would include people that she was leaving her estate to and may include their addresses or the towns where they lived at the time.  The list of interested persons might mention family members as well.

Thanks Shelley 

I've avoided naming names of living persons here, so you'll have to fill in the blanks!
I thought I would have a look at the Maryland probate record for Phyllis McGuire. In case you haven't seen it, the personal representative listed on the search results looks to be a close relative, living in 2007 in Gaithersburg. Since no attorney is listed on the probate record, that person most likely administered the estate. And, if you wrote to the Gaithersburg address that is on the probate record and received no reply, then it is is likely that the p. representative moved between 2007 and when you wrote the letter. A person with the same name is listed on beenverified.com in Montgomery Village, MD, which is a neighboring town.

I also noticed the mention of Matthew's family going in 1951 to Cedar Grove, New Jersey in the thread. That prompted me to search for him in the U.S. census records on familysearch.org. There are 1920 and 1930 U.S. census listings for Matthew McGuire, 8 and 18 years old, living with his family at 437 Broadway, Elizabeth, New Jersey, which is 18 miles south of Cedar Grove. In the 1940 U.S. census, the family is still at the same address in Elizabeth, but Matthew McGuire is not with them. He is in the U.S. Army Air Corps at Mitchel Field in Hempstead, New York (on Long Island). Matthew seems to have enlisted in the U.S. Army as early as 1935, since he is listed on the 1940 census page as living at the same place in 1935. Here's a link to the 1940 census page: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89MB-SZ72?mode=g&i=27&cc=2000219. Matthew must have served in the Army and then re-enlisted in or transferred to the U.S. Navy.

There seem to be a boatload of McGuires currently living in Cedar Grove, New Jersey. Perhaps Matthew and family were going to visit relatives there. Perhaps relatives of his still live there.

Hope this helps.
John 

[carol8353]

Hi Johnny,

I haven't read your reply in full (I will do that later) as I am just in the middle of reading Phyllis's will,and of course I now have the names of a couple more family members whom I knew nothing about.

It is looking very likely that the oldest daughter b 1944 has died though.

Thanks

Carol