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Re: Desperately seeking Susan DOUGLAS' birth or death dates
« Reply #9 on: Friday 25 April 08 22:12 BST (UK) »
This looks to be Gabriel in the 1841 census. I'll list as is showing on FreeCen rather than the other index.  Everyone showing as born in the county:

Gabriel Douglass 55, inn keeper,
Jane Douglass    45
Richard Douglass 25, Independent
Ann Douglass    5
Marry Gerran    25, servant
James Gibb    20, printer
Margt Nouat    10
Marry Nouat    15
Marry Wallace    15, servant
John Anderson    20, coachman

Address: Tempelhill, Dundonald Ayrshire

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Re: Desperately seeking Susan DOUGLAS' birth or death dates
« Reply #10 on: Friday 25 April 08 22:21 BST (UK) »
Also at Templehill:

Hillan Hardie, 25 - likely mis transcription of Henry? This is from Freecen, the other index even more misleading....
Robert Hardie, 2
Grace, 1

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Re: Desperately seeking Susan DOUGLAS' birth or death dates
« Reply #11 on: Friday 25 April 08 22:33 BST (UK) »
It now gets confusing as I have found another headstone in Crosby Kirkyard that connects Gabriel Douglas and a possbile 3rd wife of his.  You will have to do some research to verify the next bits that I send you:

Erected by James Alexander Cabinet Maker, Troon in memory of his children Anna died 27th Jan 1840 aged 5 mnths
William dies 28 Sep 1833 9?) aged 11 mths
Jessie died 28 Aug 1836 (?) aged 19 mnths
Isabella died 22 Dec 1839 aged 9 yrs
The above James ALexander died 27 Oct 1867 aged 76 yrs
His grandson Gabriel Douglas who died in infancy
His son James late of St. Vincent died 29 May 1878 aged 490 yrs
His wife Agnes Tillery died 21 Jul 1893 aged 91 yrs
His daughter Agnes Relict of Mark Thompson dies 30th Nove 1903
And his last surviving daughter Jane who died at Troon 30th May 1906

Notes: Agnes Tillery was the Post Mistress at troon 1855 - 1879
Int eh 1841 census there is also a son Richard aged 10.  Either someone has re-chiselled this stone mistaking 3's for 5's or the origional inscriptions had the wrong years.  Isabella's death is certainly in Dec 1839 (Ayr Advertiser) and not 1859.  Stone erected by Watson & Adam Troon.
Agnes relict of Mark Thompson had a prior marriage to Gabriel Douglas on 14th April 1845 as per Ayr Advertiser.  The notice in the AA also indicated that Gabriel Douglas' first wife was Elizabeth Paterson d. 20th April 1831.  

There are notes that this Stone and MI are connected with the next two.

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Re: Desperately seeking Susan DOUGLAS' birth or death dates
« Reply #12 on: Friday 25 April 08 22:48 BST (UK) »
MI Crosby Kirkyard

Erected to the memory of William Tillery who dies 12th APr 1853 aged 82 years after having served His Grace, the Duke of Portland for 36 years as Gardener and Overseer at Fullarton
And his wife Jean Buntine who died 26th May 1850 aged 74 years
and of their sons George Douglas who died at Drumlanrig Castle 31st May 1841 aged 21 years
John who died 2nd Mar 1848 aged 25 years

Notes: William Tillery was living at Lochgreen in the 1841 census and was born Belhelvie, Aberdeen
Succeedes in 1832 as gardener by son William

George Douglas Tillery above possibly named after George Douglas of Rodinghead factor to the Ducke of Portland 1810 - 1826
See also Nicol Brown Tillery in Feu REgister, Feus No 8 and 152 possibly named after Nicol Brown Esq. of Lanfine (Aiton's Ayrshirep.593)
Another son William b. Kilmarnock 1808 and d. Norton Cuckney , Notts England 29 April 1879. See (AA 15th Oct 1874 and 22 May 1879)
Daughter Agnes Married James Alexander (see previous post)
Anotehr daughter Jean (aged 28 yrs in the 1841 census) married Kenneth Ross 26 Mar 1841.  Family seems to have emigrated to Canada as per the AA 8th May 1862.

One more stone that is connected


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Re: Desperately seeking Susan DOUGLAS' birth or death dates
« Reply #13 on: Friday 25 April 08 22:51 BST (UK) »
Last MI that is connected
(base only)
Erected by A. Thompson
In loving memory of her beloved daughter Tina A T Douglas who died 1 sept 1890 (Born 2 Jun 1845)

Notes: Parents of Tina Douglas were Gabriel Douglas (watchmaker) and Agnes Alexander.

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Re: Desperately seeking Susan DOUGLAS' birth or death dates
« Reply #14 on: Friday 25 April 08 22:56 BST (UK) »
Monica that looks like the right one with Gabriel living Templehill.

I will see if I can find a Robert Hardie death that matches with the 2yr old in the census.  I bet they transcribed the name wrong for Henry.

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Re: Desperately seeking Susan DOUGLAS' birth or death dates
« Reply #15 on: Friday 25 April 08 23:33 BST (UK) »
I have found the following children for Susan Douglas and Henry Hardie (Hardy)

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12 June 1839 Robert Hardy
22 Jan 1840 Grace Buchanan Hardy
12 Oct 1843 Henry Hardy
24 Jul 1845 George Douglas Hardie


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Re: Desperately seeking Susan DOUGLAS' birth or death dates
« Reply #16 on: Friday 25 April 08 23:55 BST (UK) »
I have the 1841 census with notes on it and found this:

Douglas Gabriel; Address given as Templehill, occupation given as Innkeeper, born 1784, died 3 Sep 1846 in Irvine, Further information on the death in the Ayr Advertiser.

Douglas Margaret; (maiden name Anderson). Address given as Templehill, born abt. 1795, died 26 June 1867 in Glasgow, Further information on the death in the Ayr Advertiser. Father's name John Anderson Mother's name Mary Boyd. Married to *William C Howat - Additional information Married twice. 2nd husb=Gabriel Douglas d. 3 Sep 1846 Father (J.A.) d 17 Aug 1838 (ref AA) Mother (M.B.) d. 3 Oct 1832.

Douglas Ann; Address given as Templehill, born abt. 1835, Father's name Gabriel Douglas Mother's name Margaret Anderson. Married to Robert Sturrock on 2 Jul 1855 Further information on the wedding in the Ayr Advertiser

Douglas Rhoda; Address given as Templehill, occupation given as Independent, born 1816, died 22 Dec 1846 in Irvine, Further information on the death in the Kilmarnock Journal.

Here is Henry and Susan

Hardie Henry; Address given as Templehill, born abt. 1810, Married to Susan Douglas on 8 May 1838 ,

Hardie Susan; (maiden name Douglas). Address given as Templehill, born abt. 1818,

Hardie Robert; Address given as Templehill, born 1838,

Hardie Grace; Address given as Templehill, born 16 Jan 1841 in Troon;



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Re: Desperately seeking Susan DOUGLAS' birth or death dates
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 26 April 08 07:56 BST (UK) »
Hello LL & Monica,

Oh my gosh, so much information. That's amazing. I've been away from my computer for 2 days, being a long weekend in New Zealand. I am obsolutely amazed at what you have found. I will go and sit down and read over your replies more fully. Thank you both so much.

Christine (Haysom)
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