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At present I am researching as a further branch of my family
which I only discovered yesterday afternoon (Sunday), that
one of my Great Aunt's Dulcie nee Franklin was married to a
Capt., Sassoon Joseph Sassoon.

Her parentage was Frederic Samuel Franklin and mother was Lucy Amy nee Magnus, father was Sir Philip Magnus, 1st Bart., M.P. of London.

His father was Joseph Sasson and his mother was Louise, daughter
of of Baron Horace de Gunzburg of St Petersburg, Russia.

He was born in 1885 and died on 7 February 1922. but he's related as a first cousin to the World War 1 poet Siegfried Sassoon.

I would like to know if he fought in any of those contemporary wars or any information about him that's if anyone can help me please.

I am researching the Franklin, Samuel's, Jessel's. Waleys and Sassoon's among other many branches of my family.
I am also related to the bio-scientist Rosalind Franklin, who discovered the Single DNA Helix structure in 1953. But one of my main regrets in my life is that I never met this talented lady, who died at the young age of 37 in 1958 !!
The avatar's of my paternal grandmother, K. Jessel.
It is fun doing this amount of research.

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Re: Where do I look for information on the relatives of Siegfried Sassoon?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 21 April 08 22:03 BST (UK) »


Hi RosalindElsiE !  :)

I don't know if this is your site or not ... but have you seen this ?  :)

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~macculloch/p162.htm

Also here's Horace ( which you probably have already !!  :) )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Günzburg

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/249570/Horace-Baron-Gunzburg

Here's a Medal card for a Sassoon, Joseph ( maybe his !!  ::) )

Dragoon Guards
Captain
Inniskilling Dragoon Guards
Captain
Date
1914-1920

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Re: Where do I look for information on the relatives of Siegfried Sassoon?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 21 April 08 22:43 BST (UK) »


http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~macculloch/p147.htm#i7888

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Joseph Sassoon Sassoon1,2 (M)
b. 31 Dec 1855, d. Jan 1918, #7888
Pedigree
     Joseph Sassoon Sassoon was born on 31 December 1855 at Bombay, India, and he has been described as being 'of Ashley Park, Walton On Thames.3,4,1,5,6' He was the son of Sassoon David Sassoon and Flora Reuben.3 He appeared on the census of 2 April 1871 at 17 Cumberland Terrace, St Pancras, London, as Son, age 15, birthplace Bombay, India, and he was a Scholar.7 He was educated at Christ Church Oxford and he obtained an MA.6 He appeared on the census of 3 April 1881 at Common Side, Walton on Thames, Surrey, as Head, unmarried, age 25, birthplace Bombay, India and he was a 'Magistrate Surrey'. The full entry reads :-

Dwelling:   Common Side
Census Place:   Walton On Thames, Surrey, England
Source:   FHL Film 1341180 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0765 Folio 18 Page 29
Marr   Age   Sex   Birthplace
Joseph Sassoon SASSOON   U   25 M   Bombay, India
Rel:   Head
Occ:   Magistrate Surrey
Alfred SASSOON   U   19 M   London St Pancras, London, Middlesex, England
Rel:   Brother
Occ:   Undergraduate (Oxford)
Fredk. SASSOON   U   18 M   London St Pancras, London, Middlesex, England
Rel:   Brother
Occ:   Undergraduate (Oxford)
Lionel M. DAVIS   U   23 M   Kennington, Surrey, England
Rel:   Visitor
Occ:   Clerk
Jeanette RUTHERFORD   U   29 F   Roxburgshire, Scotland
Rel:   Serv
Occ:   Housemaid
Emily NESSLING   U   19 F   Huntingdon, England
Rel:   Serv
Occ:   Housemaid.3
He married Baroness Louise de Gunzburg, daughter of Baron Horace de Gunzburg, in 1884.8,9,6 He appeared on the census of 5 April 1891 at Walton on Thames, Surrey, as Head, age 35, birthplace Bombay, India. He was living with his wife Louise, sons Arthur, David and Sassoon, daughters Hannah and Mozelle, and Arthur Read 39 Boarder, Private Secretary, plus other servants.10 He appeared on the census of 31 March 1901 at Ashley Park Estate, Walton on Thames, Surrey, as Head, married, age 45, born Bombay, India, and he was 'Living On Own Means - a millionaire'. He was living with his wife Louise, six children, [excluding Sassoon] his Private Secretary Arthur Read, 49, two Footmen, Hall Boy, Cook, Kitchenmaid, Scullarymaid, three Housemaids, Nurse and Lady's Maid.11 He was a JP.6 He died in January 1918 at age 62.4,6

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Re: Where do I look for information on the relatives of Siegfried Sassoon?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 21 April 08 22:48 BST (UK) »


These are the children born ... but I can't find your Joseph !!

Children of Joseph Sassoon Sassoon and Baroness Louise de Gunzburg ........
Hannah Sassoon   (1887 - 1910)
David Sassoon   (11 Mar 1888)
Arthur Meyer Sassoon   (1889)
Edward Sassoon   (1892)
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Re: Where do I look for information on the relatives of Siegfried Sassoon?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 21 April 08 23:09 BST (UK) »
Annie
Thank for your searches and I do use that Maculocchs site all the time,
as it was the first good one that I found. Including that I am in it too.

I have not met one of the Sassoon's relatives yet, also it's ok that
you've not been able to find the Joseph that I'm after.

The Joseph Sassoon that I am after if it's of any help was related to
Siegfried Sassoon, I have found a wee bit about him on the
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ site.
I am researching the Franklin, Samuel's, Jessel's. Waleys and Sassoon's among other many branches of my family.
I am also related to the bio-scientist Rosalind Franklin, who discovered the Single DNA Helix structure in 1953. But one of my main regrets in my life is that I never met this talented lady, who died at the young age of 37 in 1958 !!
The avatar's of my paternal grandmother, K. Jessel.
It is fun doing this amount of research.

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Re: Where do I look for information on the relatives of Siegfried Sassoon?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 21 April 08 23:47 BST (UK) »
Rosalind you would enjoy looking these up yourself  :)

Marriage March 1919 London C 1c/550  Sassoon J Sassoon to Dulcie Franklin

1891 census

Joseph S Sassoon 35
Louise 29
Sassoon J 5
Hannah 4
David 3
Mozelle 8 mths


Siegfried b 1887

1891 census Rg 12/683/30/3   Mistranscribed under Harmer

Theresa G Sassoon 35 b London
Michael 6
Siegfried 4
Hodmo 3

Their parents had split up.  Theresa had married Alfred Sassoon b 1862

1881 census RG12/683/30/3  (as per Liverpool Annies's post)

Joseph Sassoon Sassoon 25
Alfred Sassoon 19

Fredk Sassoon 18

The brothers, and your link.





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Re: Where do I look for information on the relatives of Siegfried Sassoon?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 00:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks Annie and Silvery yes I will have a look for them tomorrow
but I do appreciate all of your searches and they're fascinating too.

I am researching the Franklin, Samuel's, Jessel's. Waleys and Sassoon's among other many branches of my family.
I am also related to the bio-scientist Rosalind Franklin, who discovered the Single DNA Helix structure in 1953. But one of my main regrets in my life is that I never met this talented lady, who died at the young age of 37 in 1958 !!
The avatar's of my paternal grandmother, K. Jessel.
It is fun doing this amount of research.

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Re: Where do I look for information on the relatives of Siegfried Sassoon?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 00:13 BST (UK) »


It wasn't me who gave you the last lot !! ... it was "silvery" !!  :D

But I'll have a little look later when it's a little quieter and see what else can be found !!

Annie  :)
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Re: Where do I look for information on the relatives of Siegfried Sassoon?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 00:22 BST (UK) »
Annie sorry and oops, I should have looked more carefully.

Also no rush yet for the information, I am just doing the research in most likely a very unprofessional way.
Because I have made a lot of Word files that was before I had bought the Family Historian software but I still have to get used to that too.

 :D

All of your searches have taught me loads in just a few minutes,
Thanks
I am researching the Franklin, Samuel's, Jessel's. Waleys and Sassoon's among other many branches of my family.
I am also related to the bio-scientist Rosalind Franklin, who discovered the Single DNA Helix structure in 1953. But one of my main regrets in my life is that I never met this talented lady, who died at the young age of 37 in 1958 !!
The avatar's of my paternal grandmother, K. Jessel.
It is fun doing this amount of research.