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Re: Anyone going to Berks RO - Pain in Winkfield
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 14 December 08 07:41 GMT (UK) »
If you are in London, the SoG has a copy of the transcripts

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Re: Anyone going to Berks RO - Pain in Winkfield
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 14 December 08 10:23 GMT (UK) »
The bishops transcripts should be exactly the same as the original parish register.  In practice there are usually a few differences as items get omitted and a few transcription errors occur  Also comments made by the vicar are often not found in the bishops transcript.  For a few entries they can actually be better than the original register.

They are howver a very good second best particularly if the original register has not survived as seems to be the case for some years at Winkfield.

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Re: Anyone going to Berks RO - Pain in Winkfield
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 14 December 08 12:20 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the tips newburychap. Only the Family History Catalogue page linked to says the transcripts of Winkfield refer to the period 1577-1670. I noticed something else though. They also have something called "Bishop's transcripts for Winkfield, 1607-1836". Do you think these would contain the same information as the parish records?

Sorry -didn't notice that the LDS only had part of the transcript. 

BTs are fine where they exist - as inaccurate as any other transcript but well worth checking if there is no access to the originals. Their biggest failing is usually missing years. They can also be in very poor condition, got some out at an RO a couple of months back and the assistant who went through them with me couldn't work out why they bothered to keep some of them as they were totally illegible - and these were from the 1850s (going by the dates on those that were semi-legible).

After 1836 any BTs will be at the Oxfordshire RO.
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Re: Anyone going to Berks RO - Pain in Winkfield
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 14 December 08 18:38 GMT (UK) »
Which ones, Bob? The Parish Registers or the Bishop's Transcripts? As I said I'm in Sardinia but I go to London 2 or 3 times a year seeing as that's where I come from, but I only manage to stay for a couple of days at a time usually at weekends, which has so far put paid to any idea of a trip to Reading. The SoG sounds a bit more promising, What do they require in exchange for access?

Thanks for the information, David. I think the original record does exist and it's in the Berkshire Records Office. It's just that the LDS appear only to have a few years of them.

Oxfordshire! That's even further than Berkshire, but thanks anyway for the information, Newburychap. I'm interested in a period before 1836 though, initially 1770-1807, and then, if I found out my Pains actually did come from Winkfield, from 1770 backwards.

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Re: Anyone going to Berks RO - Pain in Winkfield
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 14 December 08 19:56 GMT (UK) »
You can see the SoG here
http://www.sog.org.uk/index.shtml


They are transcripts of the PRs

From the Catalogue
   WINKFIELD : C 1564-1663, M 1564-1670, B 1564-1666 [Typescript.]     1
   WINKFIELD : C 1564-1841, index to Winkfield wills 1508-1652, Winkfield wills in the Consistory Court of Sarum, 1588-1851 [Typescript.]    1
   WINKFIELD : M 1564-1837, B 1564-1838 [Typescript.]

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Re: Anyone going to Berks RO - Pain in Winkfield
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 14 December 08 23:06 GMT (UK) »
You're right, Bob. £18 a day is a bit steep. If I intended going more than once in a year it would be cheaper to join the Society, as I see it's £27 a year for new members resident outside the UK.

Anyway, thanks for the information. It's given me something to chew over. Certainly quicker and easier than a journey to Reading and I'd have to pay my train fare to get there.

Chris
Pain (Mortlake, Barnes); Carpenter (Hereford, Welshpool, Shrewsbury); Wickings (Kent, Richmond);
Birch (Shrewsbury); Gane (Somerset, Mortlake); Young (London, Richmond);
Weir (Berwickshire, Gloucestershire, Welshpool); France (Shrewsbury); House (Chiswick, Mortlake);
Brain (Kent); Breadmore (Wiltshire, Richmond); Gough (Gloucestershire);
Colley (Shropshire); Hindley/Henley (Shropshire);

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Re: Anyone going to Berks RO - Pain in Winkfield
« Reply #15 on: Monday 15 December 08 13:29 GMT (UK) »
For a fiver or so the BRO will do the look up for you - save the fare to London as well as the fare to Reading.

However, Maidenhead Library will quite possibly do it for nowt - have you tried them yet?
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Re: Anyone going to Berks RO - Pain in Winkfield
« Reply #16 on: Monday 15 December 08 21:34 GMT (UK) »
For a fiver or so the BRO will do the look up for you - save the fare to London as well as the fare to Reading.

However, Maidenhead Library will quite possibly do it for nowt - have you tried them yet?

I'll certainly bear these other two possibilities in mind before deciding how to spend my hard earned euros.
Pain (Mortlake, Barnes); Carpenter (Hereford, Welshpool, Shrewsbury); Wickings (Kent, Richmond);
Birch (Shrewsbury); Gane (Somerset, Mortlake); Young (London, Richmond);
Weir (Berwickshire, Gloucestershire, Welshpool); France (Shrewsbury); House (Chiswick, Mortlake);
Brain (Kent); Breadmore (Wiltshire, Richmond); Gough (Gloucestershire);
Colley (Shropshire); Hindley/Henley (Shropshire);