Surname intrests in The Lye area

[jandap]

Vanessa
It only allowed 2 pictures;  here is the closeup of the display frame:

[jandap]

Hi Linell
Some good information in your postings, thank you.  I presume you have the full books of the notes of the Rev Thompson - all I can find on the net are extracts.  Maybe I should get copies from the Cradley Links bookshop.

William Crampton was born about 1778 and married Phoebe Whorton in 1803.  Going further back is more difficult and there is the confusion of Crampton or Crumpton as the surname.  It may be that William's parents were John Crampton and Eleanor Arnold but I cannot be sure of this. I believe Phoebe's parents are William Whorton and Sarah, again I am not sure.  So, while I am sure there is common ground here, there is nothing definite (yet!)

Your second posting is full of references to members of my tree.  Henry Crampton 1805 married Mary Winnall 1807 in 1836;  he died in 1850 leaving her to bring up the family of 8 children. Mary was one of ten children to John Winnall ? and Elizabeth Heathcock 1786 so the three ladies mentioned will be her sisters.  I will follow these up.  Mary is a gg grandmother.  It also looks as if Elizabeth and Phoebe are twins;  maybe this is noted in the original Parish Records, rather than the transcripts or indexes.

John Bloomer 1807 is a gg grandfather.  He was married twice, first to Ann Dunn who bore their sons Philip 1834 and Caleb 1832.  He married Eliza Wyatt in 1838 and they had 11 children in total.  The Rev. Thompson certainly fleshes out the lives of people and what is amazing to us now is how young children were working as nailers and chainmakers. In the 1871 census John is a Rate Collector.  One area of research for the future is to find when John died (somewhere between 1871 & 1881) and where he was buried.  I know Eliza was still living in 1901 and now 1911 is out I can find if she died between these dates.

My maternal grandmother Louisa 1882 was the daughter of Phoebe Bloomer 1848 and John Crampton 1846.  They had seven children altogether and one was Jane Crampton 1869 - she photographed well as you can see here.

Thanks for the extra information

Regards

Arlen

[linell]

Hi Arlen, yes that is indeed a lovely picture of Jane Crampton, how many pictures do you have?  <LOL> You are lucky..........

Yes the Cradley Vicars Notebooks have been transcribed and are for sale from the Cradley Links Web Site.  They also have books of Wills and Court Rolls, I didn't see any Cramptons or Crumptons in there but there are loads of entries for Bloomers.  Like you my Cradley families come to a full stop in the late 1700's a lot of records are missing or were not kept.  I have John Worton baptised 1796 to another John and Ann, have no further trace on them.  Found plenty of entries pre 1750 it is those missing 50 years which are the difficult bit.  I do have a friend who has Winnell, Heathcock and Wyer or Wyatt in her tree, we merge on a few lines, I know she has connections to the Cramptons.  Will get back to you with any other info I find on the above, best wishes from linell.

[Cember]

Hi jandap,
Mrs Hingley, Mrs Edmonds and Mrs Harris are Mary Winnall's sisters.
Hannah married Benjamin Hingley in 1835, Rev Thompson lists 9 children.
Sarah married John Harris and had at least 6 children.
Emma married Samuel Edmonds in 1855, I only have 5 children for them so far!
Abigail married Samuel Roper in 1845.
Samuel Edmonds was the son of Ingley Edmu/onds and Jane Warr.
Samuel Roper was the son of William and Ann Roper.
Hope this helps

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I am researching SKELDING, CARTWRIGHT (originally from Belbroughton), CHANCE, TAYLOR and many other names from the Lye. 

Velda

[Cember]

Hi Velda,
I also have Taylors in my tree, ~Grandma was Phoebe Ann Taylor born 1870, her parents were Simeon Taylor and Sarah Ann Perry.
Cember's OH

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My Grandmother Florence Selina Skelding nee Cartwright (1879-1929) was also known as Florrie Drybread because when she had a row with my Grandad Sidney (1877-1957) that's what she gave him for his packed lunch - or so the story goes.

Velda

[jandap]

Thanks Linell,
I do have a few more pictures yet.  I will post them when I can. 
I have enquired about getting the Cradley Books and will read them with interest when they come.  More links in the chain.  I suppose wherever you look there are gaps in the records for whatever reason.  And thanks for passing things on.

The first picture is taken, I guess, about 1900.  The only information I have is that my maternal grandmother is second from the right in the middle row.  The number of people do not exactly equate to my knowledge of the family but I would make a pretty confident guess at the following:
Back Row: ? ? ? ?
Middle Row: ?, Phoebe Crampton n. Bloomer 1848, John Crampton 1846, Louisa Crampton 1882, Howard Crampton 1873
Front Row: Lawrence Crampton 1779, ?

I know of 5 Crampton sisters - Jane 1869, Clara 1872, Florence 1875, Ellen Sophia (Nellie) 1877 and my grandmother Louisa 1882 and so five of the young women in the picture will be them.  Don't you just love the hairstyles and the lacework on their shoulders?

Move forward about 40 years to 1937 and I have a picture of four of the Crampton girls, some now married.

I believe them to be Clara, Louisa (definite), Florence and Ellen.  Clara was married to Ernest Tallis 1873, Louisa to Howard Pearson 1881, Florence was unmarried (and a hospital matron) and Ellen married John Tye Forrest Homer 1879.

More to come., Regards, Arlen

[jandap]

Thanks, Cember, for your information.  I will follow these up.  Didn't they have large families!

Best Regards

Arlen