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Re: Where would he be buried?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 20 April 08 10:05 BST (UK) »
If he suffered senile decay, then I would suggest it was definitely a case of hospital care, a couple of mine died in the workhouse for that very reason. It is a hard enough condition to cope with today with our so called NHS, it must have been so much worse in those days.

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Re: Where would he be buried?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 20 April 08 10:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Kerry,

I have just found out (Friday) at Surrey FHC,  that "my" infant Paris Bradshawe for whom I have the death certificate from the workhouse, was buried the following day at St. James Weybridge 1841.
I have previously spoken to the Vicar there and he has no record of the burial although he has others at his church, so I presume the paupers graves are not marked and only exist on the parish burials, which makes no sense. The burial seemed very soon after death  :o
I was lucky because it appeared in the parish burials, including age of 4 months, it states 1 year on his death certificate.

You may be lucky because yours is 1890, Chertsey Union Workhouse records are complete by then with admissions and discharge dates (not before though!) so Lingfield may be the same ;D where was Lingfield Workhouse  ???

Good Luck

Crystal  :D
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Re: Where would he be buried?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 20 April 08 10:26 BST (UK) »
If he suffered senile decay, then I would suggest it was definitely a case of hospital care, a couple of mine died in the workhouse for that very reason. It is a hard enough condition to cope with today with our so called NHS, it must have been so much worse in those days.

Jebber
When I first received the certificate I wondered why his family had deserted him and put in the workhouse till I stopped and thought.  It must have been a terrible illness to have had to deal with in those days.  :-\

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Re: Where would he be buried?
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 20 April 08 10:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Kerry,

I have just found out (Friday) at Surrey FHC,  that "my" infant Paris Bradshawe for whom I have the death certificate from the workhouse, was buried the following day at St. James Weybridge 1841.
I have previously spoken to the Vicar there and he has no record of the burial although he has others at his church, so I presume the paupers graves are not marked and only exist on the parish burials, which makes no sense. The burial seemed very soon after death  :o
I was lucky because it appeared in the parish burials, including age of 4 months, it states 1 year on his death certificate.

You may be lucky because yours is 1890, Chertsey Union Workhouse records are complete by then with admissions and discharge dates (not before though!) so Lingfield may be the same ;D where was Lingfield Workhouse  ???

Good Luck

Crystal  :D
Hi Crystal

I'm not sure where the workhouse was, I am going to have check it out!

Mind you as the sun is coming out I may be called out to the garden today  ;D

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Re: Where would he be buried?
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 20 April 08 10:41 BST (UK) »


I think he will be in the local cemetery - probably in a pauper's grave shared with several others.  That is what happned to my ancestor who died in the workhouse.
Andrea


... and as happened with my gr-gr-grandfather in 1870. He died in the Paddington Workhouse and was buried in a mass grave at the Old Paddington (Municipal) Cemetery. The family story is that he was suffering some form of dementia, so perhaps he was in the workhouse's infirmary.

His family lived nearby and were not paupers.  I don't really understand why they didn't bury him in his own grave — his wife died six years later and the eldest son arranged for her burial in her own plot with a gravestone etc in the same cemetery.

I learned all this from the cemetery records still held by the local council.

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Re: Where would he be buried?
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 20 April 08 10:52 BST (UK) »
HI Kerry and all

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Would the workhouse have held burial registers

I have transcribed some Workhouse records for Northampton and Wellingborough.

Here is what information they gave. May help others here also.  :)

No: Day: Mon: Year: Surname: Name: Age: From Parish: Where Buried.
   
Examples below
14 Jan 1873
Drage Mary Ann 3 months (Mother from Bozeat)-Wellingborough
   
7 May 1888
Macdonald Lewis Keith 5 months (Mother from Rushden)-Wellingborough

19 17 Mar   1868
Travis George (alias Jn Hy Wilson) 26 Admitted as a Vagrant-Wellingborough Cemetery
   
33 5 Oct 1868
Johnson Ruth 82 Easton Mauditt-Yardley
   
5 Mar 1877
Leach Elizabeth 70 Gt Doddington-Wollaston
   
16 Oct 1913
Roberts Joseph 73 Wellingborough -To Cambridge School of Anatomy

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Re: Where would he be buried?
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 20 April 08 12:29 BST (UK) »
Thanks Seahall

I'll check out what records they have

Kerry
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Re: Where would he be buried?
« Reply #16 on: Monday 21 April 08 11:12 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone,

Ive just read this thread and was thinking to myself that at this period in time, wasnt it popular thinking among the people that if anyone was senile, or a bit ''loopy'' (for want of a better word), families just had nothing more to do with them??? Kind of like that person dropped that families social status or something??

Wouldnt that answer why families didnt bury certain members in their own graves but did others?? Such as the situation posted by Koromo???

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« Reply #17 on: Monday 21 April 08 11:23 BST (UK) »
Katrina

I think you are right and that is why poor John ended his days in a workhouse when his family could easily have looked after him.  They either couldn't cope or didn't want a loopy old man with them.  :-\

Kerry
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