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Offline RichardK

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Latin help please
« on: Saturday 19 April 08 19:53 BST (UK) »
Would some kind passing Latin expert be able to help me understand the following passage?  I found it in the title deeds of a public house (Three Horseshoes, Hinxworth, Hertfordshire) at the county record office and it appears to mention a Francis Stanton that I've been researching, but I can't tell what the document is actually saying!  I guess that the opening bit is introducing the parties to some agreement - William Dobson of Stanford in the parish of Southill, Bedfordshire and William Sale of Langford, Bedfordshire as well as Francis Stanton of Hinxworth, Hertfordshire, and I'm guessing that 'Centum Libris Bone et Legalis monete Anglie' is £100 of lawful English money, but beyond that I'm stumped.

Any help gratefully received.

Thanks
Richard.

Noverint universi per presentes nos Gulielmum Dobson de Stanford in
perroca de Southill im Comitatu Bedford Miller et Gulielmum Sale
de Langford in Comitatu Bedford Arketector teneri et Firmiter obligeo
Francisco Staunton de Hinksworth in Commitatu Harford Generofum
in Centum Libris Bone et Legalis monete Anglie solundum sidem Francisco
Staunton aut suo Corto Aturnato Hebedi &c Executoribus Administratori
bus vel assignatis suis ad quum quidem soluconem Bone et Fideliter
Faciondam obligamus nos et utrumque nostrum per sepro toto ettin
solido Heredes executors et Administratores nostros Firmiter per pre
sentes sigillis nostrus sigillatum datum vicesimo octavo die Aprilis Anno
Regni domino nostri Anne Regine Dei gratia Anglie scotie Francie
et Hibernie Fidei defensor et quinto Annoque dunini 1706
Kelly, Birkenhead & Co. Kildare
Marshall, Luton & area
Reid, Co. Kildare & Dublin
Cox, Barnack Northamptonshire
Edwards, Pagham, Sussex & area
Scott, Roxburghshire & Perthshire
Mitchell, Warwickshire
Savage, Hampshire

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Re: Latin help please
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 20 April 08 11:27 BST (UK) »
Richard

That's too much for my elementary Latin and it looks rather like dog Latin with a couple of abbreviations which makes it even more difficult!

I think there is a Latin tutorial on the National Archives site - if no-one else here comes to your aid, you could possibly have a look at that!

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Re: Latin help please
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 20 April 08 13:05 BST (UK) »
This is a response although the latin is rough and ready as was the Legal Latin of those times.


This is our translation  I seems to be a debt that is passed on from generation to generation on both sides.


Let it be known by  (to) all present that we William Dobson of Stanford in the parish(?) of Southill in the district of Bedford, Miller and William Sale of Langford in the district of Bedford, Architect we are firmly bound and obliged to give Francis Staunton of Hinksworth in the district of Harford (Generofum?)  One Hundred Pounds of good and legal English money either to Francis Staunton or to his Court appointed Executors and Administrators,  or to anyone assigned by him in good faith . This obligation applies to both  us and our executors and adminstrators.
Signed in front of witnesses the 28th April   in the reign of our  Anne by the grace of God defender of the faith   Queen of England Scotland and Ireland in the fifth year of her reign 1706


Hope this helps.

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Re: Latin help please
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 20 April 08 16:59 BST (UK) »
Hello - thank you very much for that.  It's most helpful.  Many thanks for your time.
Regards
Richard.
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Reid, Co. Kildare & Dublin
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Mitchell, Warwickshire
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Re: Latin help please
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 July 08 20:06 BST (UK) »
Interestingly, that's about £14,900 today............

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Re: Latin help please
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 July 08 07:53 BST (UK) »
Generally this type of document referred to a land or title transfer, and was usually a type of court settlement.

Darren

PS As far as my Latin goes, I think you are pretty much on the money!
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