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Offline nedroma

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Apeleham?? Hampshire
« on: Saturday 19 April 08 12:41 BST (UK) »
In looking in the 1851 census for ELIAS RUMSEY, he is recorded as being at 5 Cork Street in Camberwell.

His place of birth has been transcribed as Hants, Apeleham;  I have looked closely at the record and can't improve on that but I am unconvinced that Apeleham is correct.

From local knowledge can anybody put forward a more plausible interpretation?

So far I have been unable to find him in the 1841 census; my guess is that he should be in Camberwell.

Alan
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Re: Apeleham?? Hampshire
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 19 April 08 12:46 BST (UK) »
Maybe Appleshaw, which is near Andover.

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Re: Apeleham?? Hampshire
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 19 April 08 12:52 BST (UK) »
isnt that Murphy's Law - virtually all the places on that page are easy to decipher .... Is the other Rumsey Head of Household related ....

1841 wont really help - so hopefully Nell's suggestion will lead somewhere ?
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Re: Apeleham?? Hampshire
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 19 April 08 12:55 BST (UK) »
Nell and Newfster

Appleshaw looks very pausible.

Thank you both for your extremely rapid responses.

Alan

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Re: Apeleham?? Hampshire
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 19 April 08 12:55 BST (UK) »
I think the other head of household might be an Elias Rumsey who married a Sarah Lambert in 1835 at St Mary in Lambeth.

? Maybe  :-\

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Re: Apeleham?? Hampshire
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 19 April 08 12:58 BST (UK) »
Hi all  :)

Someone on familysearch interpreted it as Appleshaw as well!

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Elias Rumsey
Birth:  About 1779   Appleshaw, Hampshire, England
Death:  14 FEB 1859   Camberwell, London, England
Spouse:  Mary Herold 
Marriage:  04 JAN 1801   St Mary'S, Lambeth, Surrey, England
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Re: Apeleham?? Hampshire
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 19 April 08 13:00 BST (UK) »
An Elias Rumsey/Ramsey and a Sarah had children baptised in Southwark and Lambeth areas 1830s/40s.

Elias Rumsey and Mary ? had a daughter Charlotte baptised in 1819 in Camberwell.

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Re: Apeleham?? Hampshire
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 19 April 08 13:15 BST (UK) »
Dear all

In terms of the 1851 census - the other Rumsey household on the same page is that of Elias's son Henry who is a night watchman and can be found by himself in the same census at McLeod's Brewery in Camberwell - note Henry's wife, Sarah (ne Insull), describes herself as "Brewers watchman's wife"

I have now discovered that Elias also had a son Elias b abt 1816 in Lambeth and on further research I think he will relate to the other Rumsey records that you have identified.

Thank you rootschatters - this website is an absolutely fantastic and valuable resource.

Alan
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Re: Apeleham?? Hampshire
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 21 June 08 19:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Alan.  Elias Rumsey was indeed from Appleshaw, Hampshire.  I am descended from Elias, through his son Henry Rumsey.  Henry's daughter Sarah Rumsey emigrated to Dunedin, New Zealand in 1862. Her cousin Elias Henry Rumsey also emigrated to Dunedin around the same time, but via the Australian Goldfields.

I hope you are descended from the family also and look forward to hearing from you.  Please send me a PM.

Peter Grant (London)
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