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IGI Marriage - where?
« on: Thursday 17 April 08 15:03 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help me track down this marriage?

It's from the IGI, and has one of those Batch Nos. (I011617) which doesn't have any source information but is not submitted by a LDS member, so you'd assume it was reliable.

Its:

19 Jan 1732 James Mitchell & Ann Dean

and just says 'London'.

This could possibly be a marriage I've been looking for, but it's impossible to say without more info. Is there any way of telling where in London the marriage actually took place because I'd really like to discover if there is any further information given in the original PR entry?

Jill
HELP!!!

 BATHSHEBA BOOTHROYD bn c. 1802 W. Yorks.

Baptism nowhere to be found. Possibly in a nonconformist church near ALMONDBURY or HUDDERSFIELD.

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Re: IGI Marriage - where?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 April 08 15:09 BST (UK) »
Can't help with that one, but looking at your list, hows about this from Boyds index.


1737 / TROUGHTON  RIC  /FRIDGE  JANE / SEDBERGH  /YORKSHIRE 


1738 / HORWOOD  JOHN / SMITH  MARTHA / HORSLEY / GLOUCESTERSHIRE 
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Re: IGI Marriage - where?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 April 08 15:26 BST (UK) »
Mean_genie knows quite a bit about the IGI batch numbers but I think you are going to be unlucky trying to track anything from the IGI which has a batch number beginning with I

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,286510.15.html

'There isn't a great deal Hugh Wallis could do with the 'I' batches, because there are no descriptions for them whatsoever under 'Source Information', and the body of the entry usually just says London, or even worse, Westminster!'

The date is pre the start of Pallots index, so if Boyds don't have it and it wasn't a marriage by licence  and therefore can be found in a marriage licence index (both on the Origins website) then it is going to be very difficult to track it down.

http://www.britishorigins.com/


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Re: IGI Marriage - where?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 April 08 16:00 BST (UK) »
I sort of thought that might be the answer, Valda, but thought I'd try anyway!  ::)

I did a free search on British Origins and, of course, it came up with quite a few finds for James Mitchell, but I don't really want to pay a subscription just for one look up. Don't suppose there's a free site?

Suffolk*sue, thanks for the suggestions about 2 of my missing marriages.

I knew about the first one - Sedbergh - and , to cut a very long story short, I've had a bit of a run around with it. You know the way it goes, one RO has this bit of info but if you want to know this, then you'll have to contact another RO. Turns out, the parish record entry in Sedbergh has Richard from Kendal and Jane from (I can't remember off hand but it was somewhere very near Kendal) - which is where my Richard & Jane had their family. Problem is, the marriage licence index (at another office!) had Jane marrying someone completely different!! When I queried this with the various offices, they had no answer!  ::) :-X  As the marriage was a couple of years after the baptism of their first child in Kendal, it would perhaps have explained why they went off somewhere else to make it legal, but I really didn't know what more I could do to sort it out!  :'(

And that was supposed to be the short version!!  :-[

But the other suggestion for John Horwood and Martha is the right time - but it's a good 60 miles from where they had their family - in Wargrave, Berks. Still, it's the best possibility I've ever had so will investigate further. But...Smith!! Aghhhh!!

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Jill
HELP!!!

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Baptism nowhere to be found. Possibly in a nonconformist church near ALMONDBURY or HUDDERSFIELD.


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Re: IGI Marriage - where?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 17 April 08 16:11 BST (UK) »
Jill, the woes of the family historian and yeah, SMITHHHHHH

Arrrrrrggggggggg.

 :'( :'( :'(
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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 April 08 16:12 BST (UK) »
After all that, Sue - I forgot to ask.

Does the Boyds Index give any more info on either of those marriages?

Thanks,
Jill
HELP!!!

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Baptism nowhere to be found. Possibly in a nonconformist church near ALMONDBURY or HUDDERSFIELD.

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Re: IGI Marriage - where?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 17 April 08 19:44 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the name-check, Valda!

Some of those inscrutable 'I' batches that just say 'London' turn out to relate to Fleet marriages. I have been able to identify some of them, but not others. I will have a look at my notes and get back to you. The date of 1732 is definitely the peak period for Fleet marriages. The batch also contains a few baptisms, which is not unusual for a Fleet register.

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 17 April 08 19:50 BST (UK) »
After all that, Sue - I forgot to ask.

Does the Boyds Index give any more info on either of those marriages?

Thanks,
Jill



No thats all the info there was.
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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 17 April 08 20:35 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Sue.

Mean_genie, funnily enough I was just thinking that this could be one of those dodgy Fleet marriages - the chap I'm sort of hoping it might be would only have been about 15/16 at the time, so perhaps dad didn't approve and they had to run away to get married. My chap was baptised in Eton, so not too far to run!  ???

Jill
HELP!!!

 BATHSHEBA BOOTHROYD bn c. 1802 W. Yorks.

Baptism nowhere to be found. Possibly in a nonconformist church near ALMONDBURY or HUDDERSFIELD.