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Same couple married twice in different parishes???
« on: Thursday 17 April 08 11:51 BST (UK) »
For some time I have assumed that I descend from the marriage of

Robert Parkinson of the parish of St. Catherine Coleman, MDX and
Clarissa Hardess of the same parish

who married by banns in the parish church on 6th Feb 1815.

By a scarcely believeable coincidence I have the licence and registration for the marriage of:

Robert Parkinson of St. Giles in the Fields to
Clarissa Elizabeth Hardess of St. George in the East

in St. Giles on 5th Jan 1815.

Clarissa is an unusual name and only appears once in the large Hardess family tree.

My question is whether anyone has come across a couple marrying twice? Could the first marriage have been invalid for some reason or another, even though it was recorded in the parish register?

Or are they simply two separate couples?

Any thoughts?

Justin

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Re: Same couple married twice in different parishes???
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 April 08 13:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Justin

I would check out the actual parish registers to see what is entered on each marriage.

I've come across combined 'banns and marriage' registers where it looks like the couple have married but they haven't, just the banns called.

The registers for St Katherine Coleman are at the Guildhall Library in London

The registers for St Giles have been microfilmed and can be seen at the London Metropolitan Archvies

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Re: Same couple married twice in different parishes???
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 April 08 16:48 BST (UK) »
Hi

The first marriage is only a few weeks before the second one so there may have been a problem with the banns which resulted in the wedding being deferred

I came across a similar situation last year when helping somebody with their research.  When somebody checked the marriage entries - the first wedding was cancelled due to the "inebriation of the groom"
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Re: Same couple married twice in different parishes???
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 April 08 17:19 BST (UK) »
One of my Macgee lot have that!! One week apart, but as to why... who knows!
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Re: Same couple married twice in different parishes???
« Reply #4 on: Friday 18 April 08 08:10 BST (UK) »
Below is the marriage registration from the register of St. Giles.

The entry from the register of St. Katherine Coleman, which was transcribed from the microfilm in the Guildhall, says that the couple married in that church too.

It seems two weddings did take place.

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Re: Same couple married twice in different parishes???
« Reply #5 on: Friday 18 April 08 08:33 BST (UK) »
It appears you have seen both entries. Have you compared the bride and groom's signatures?

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Re: Same couple married twice in different parishes???
« Reply #6 on: Friday 18 April 08 08:35 BST (UK) »
Was the other marriage by licence?

Did you say you had the "licence" (bond/allegation). Anything interesting there?


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Re: Same couple married twice in different parishes???
« Reply #7 on: Friday 18 April 08 08:57 BST (UK) »
it may be something simple like they married in both parties parishes so family could attend ???

sometimes banns were read and the parties never married, or didnt marry at that time, i have come across this a few times 

Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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Re: Same couple married twice in different parishes???
« Reply #8 on: Friday 18 April 08 09:41 BST (UK) »
Thank you everyone for your interest and input.

I haven't yet seen the original registration from St. Katherine Coleman. I hope to soon, then I'll certainly compare signatures.

The licence does not tell me anything more; it does not even mention Robert's occupation. My ancestor was a tea dealer and grocer.

The second marriage (6 Feb) was by banns.

Maybe Clarissa Elizabeth was in fact a cousin (or aunt ?) of the Clarissa who married in St. Katherine Coleman.

Quite a mystery?