My ABBAY/ABBEY family went to Russia c.1838 !!

[Tarquille]

Hi sre and tiggertwo!
Nice to see some movement on this board: I've been waiting patiently!
Not sure where to start really.
First: yes, sre, I'll send you my email address by pm though I agree with tiggertwo thatit is probably best to post as much as possible here so that eveyrbody can keep up to date and add their contributions to the discussion.
I've just spotted your mess with all yoru family connections on it so I'll study that first and then ask any questions later...

P.S. My starting point is William Abba (1709-1793) m. Elizabeth Miller (1715-1790). Does anyone have the dtea of their marriage?

[Tarquille]

Just to let you all know, I am gradually restoring and reposting old photos on my family website which may (or may not) be of interest to you. Here is an example of tiggertwo's photo of my great-great grandmother, Eleanor Lee:

http://www.myheritage.com/photo-1502129_183214822_183214822/eleanor-lee

P.S. I'm not posting it here as there is a size allowance and I don't want to reduce the quality of the print which is downloadable at full size from the link I have provided.

[Tarquille]

Back again!
Just to let you know, sre, that I have pulled in your info onto my family tree for the early Abbeys. Everything seems to tie up nicely now. Would love you to have a look and see if it all confirms some time.

[Tarquille]

Could this be our Mabel Gertude Irene "May" Abbey?

[Tarquille]

Me again!
I'm trying to sort out the children of William Abbey (1819) and Eleanor Lee (1825).
Some of my dates are more or less certain but birthdates for the children are giving me some problems and it appears that they are mostly undocumented (or not?)
I am sure of Alfred (my great-great grandfather - 1863) and with the help of my great aunt Evelyn's "Abbey Saga" which puts the children in order and a photo which my cousin sent me, I have come up with the approximation that can be see in the photo at this link:

http://www.myheritage.com/photo-1502154_183214822_183214822/william-abbey-family-with-names.

I am not posting the photo here as the size limits reduces the quality far too much and my notes become difficult to read!


Can anyone help out on this or confirm some specific dates?

[Tarquille]

Regarding:

UK incoming passengers 3 May 1920 HMT "Tagus" list of Russian refugees which included these Abbey folk:

Alfred ABBEY age 56
E. ABBEY (female) not sure if it says 34 or 74 (bit blurry)
William ABBEY age 52
Mrs W. ABBEY age 54
Walter ABBEY age 52
Anna ABBEY  age 55

Following up on Fel's comments:

(If the Walter and William mentioned here are brothers and the same age then they are presumably twins. This was common in the Abbey line but Evelyn doesn't mention it in her notes. In the photo that I mentioned earlier they don't look the same age although Walter, I believe, is standing on the first stair and William isn't.)

Alfred Shepherd Abbey (1863) ~ he would have been about 56/57 in 1920
Eleanor "Ellie" Abbey (1896) (Alfred's daughter) ~ she would have been about 24 (perhaps the 7 (74) is in fact a 2)
William Abbey (c.1867 my estimate based on the photo) ~ he would have been about 52/53
Mrs W. Abbey (Lucy?) ~ no birthdate for her but this would make it c.1866
Walter Abbey (c.1865 my estimate based on the photo) ~ he would have been about 54/55 and not 52 but my estimate could easily be wrong).
Anna Abbey (Tanta Anna?) ~ William's second (Russian) wife?

Any comments?

P.S. sre, could I have a copy of that document?

[Skoblin]

Greetings all,

Does anyone know where I would obtain a complete copy of the Tagus passenger list quoted below?
I am also looking for the passenger list of the Dongola which arrived in Britain on 22 May 1920, also carrying British refugees from Russia.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!

Hi Tiggertwo 

Just checked that message I sent you-

It was a reference to UK incoming passengers 3 May 1920 HMT "Tagus" list of Russian refugees which included these Abbey folk:

Alfred ABBEY age 56
E. ABBEY (female) not sure if it says 34 or 74 (bit blurry)
William ABBEY age 52
Mrs W. ABBEY age 54
Walter ABBEY age 52
Anna ABBEY  age 55

Myfi

[elcas]

Hi Mike

Many thanks for that.

He is possibly the chap I've found on a passenger list as a Refugee from Russia arriving in the UK in 1920. (William ABBEY age 52)


Myfi

Hi Myfi and others,

I just popped in ....sorry not about the Abbey-family .....but I`m desperate  try to find passenger-list of refugees from Finland/Russia in this period.

Where have you found this?

Many thanks,

Elcas

[sre]

Hi Skoblin and elcas

The information you are looking for can be found at Ancestry.co.uk which is a subscription site .... sorry I can't help further as I not currently a member .... 

Regards
sre