My ABBAY/ABBEY family went to Russia c.1838 !!

[hessu]

Hi I am working on the family tree.
Does anyone know how many children William Abbey and Mary Hawecroft had? In an old family tree composed by memory without official record, there is listed 8. William *1790, John, Duke (must be Marmaduke), Bartholomew, John 2nd time,Luke, Mark, Matthew who must be born 3 Apr 1785.


regards
hessu

[Fel]

Hi Hessu,
On my records I have ten offspring  of William (b.1752).  Thomas 1777, Ann 1778, Mary and Joseph 1780, Sarah 1783 d.1784, Matthew and Mark 1785, Luke 1787 and Robert 1788.  I have a note that they were all born at Hambleton. Any help?

Rgards,    Fel.

[tiggertwo]

Hi Fel and Hessu:

Have you two got the same family line.  It seems too different.

Regards.
tiggertwo

[Fel]

Hi Tiggertwo
I do feel that we are on the same line.  We are agreeing in the main line, and cannot quite get all the info.  According to a letter of Mattew(b.1850 I think), His father William (1819), had eight uncles,  I have only been able to trace six.  But Hessu has found eight. The letter gives the names,"Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, Wuilliam, Joseph, Duke and Tom. but they were not born in rhyme, only it was easier to remember their names this way"  I think there was also three Aunts,Ann, Mary(twin of Joseph), and Sarah.
Does this help just add to the confusion!
Kind regards, Fel.

[sre]

Hi all

I have just picked up on this thread and I’m sorry to report that my sister Gill aka Myfi passed away in January 2012 ....

If no one has any objections I would like to take up where Gill left off ......

In answer to Tigger Two’s question (reply 129) Gill and I are descend from Mercy Abbey bc 1811 who married William Harness 28.11.1831 and had 11 children .....

My Abbey tree goes something like this

William Abbey bc 1709 buried 21.12.1793 aged 84 Selby married Elizabeth Milner buried 15.4.1790 Selby, she was the daughter of William Milner

Their children were

William cr 21.4.1744 Wistow, buried 15.10.1816 Selby married Mary Hawcroft 28.3.1769 at Brayton – they had 13 children – see below
Mary cr 1.8.1745 Wistow, buried 16.8.1748 Wistow
Robert cr 5.4.1747 Wistow, buried 11.11.1785 Selby married Elizabeth Smith 19.9.1770 Selby – they had 5 children
John cr 28.5.1749 Selby, buried 25.10.1749 Selby
Ann cr 16.11.1750 Selby – no further info
John cr 26.11.1752 Selby, buried 30.7.1785 Selby married Elizabeth Stobbard 22.4.1777 Selby
Charles cr 6.4.1755 Selby – no further info
Duke cr 15.1.1758 Selby, buried 16.7.1791 – married Sarah Russell 26.11.1782 Selby – they had 4 daughters

Children of William and Mary nee Hawcroft (they had 2 sets of twins) she was the daughter of John Hawcroft
William cr 22.3.1770 Brayton – no other info
John cr 4.4.1771 Brayton married Jane Lawson 6.9.1796 Weldrake – 4 children
Duke cr 29.3.1773 Brayton married Mary Campey 25.12.1797 Brayton – 6 children
Elizabeth cr 6.12.1775 Brayton married John James 12.1.1805 Brayton – 4 children
Thomas born 3.8.1777, cr 6.8.1777 Brayton married Rebecca Haghe 25.1.1802 Escrick – 8 children
Ann born 20.12.1778, cr 30.12.1778 Brayton married William Freek 1.1.1805 Brayton – 8 children – after her husband died she emigrated to USA with her brother Luke
Mary (twin) born 26.9.1780, cr 26.9.1780 Brayton, died 1869 aged 90 married John Howcroft 28.3.1809 Brayton – 9 children
Joseph (twin) born 26.9.1780, cr 26.9.1780 Brayton, buried 17.1.1814 Selby age 33 – married twice and had a total of 5 children
Sarah born 30.1.1783, cr 6.2.1783, died 23.11.1784 Brayton – age 1 from small pox
Matthew (twin) 20.1.1785, cr 22.1.1785, died 1851 Russia age 66, he married Mercy Smart 8.3.1806 Holme on Spalding Moor – they had 6 children – see below – after Mercy died 16.2.1839 St Petersburg he then married Susannah Turnbull 5.3.1842 St Petersburg
Mark (twin) born 20.1.1785, cr 22.1.1785 Brayton, buried 1.3.1837 Hemmingbrough aged 52 – married twice 7 children by his first wife
Luke born 2.3.1787, cr 6.3.1787 Brayton married 3 times and had numerous children – emigrated to the US between 1819 and 1825
Robert born 29.9.1788, cr 29.9.1788, buried 1790 Brayton

Children of Matthew and Mercy nee Smart
Elizabeth born 16.8.1806, cr 14.9.1806 Holme on Spalding Moor – no further info
Mary born 25.2.1809, cr 22.3.1809 Holme on Spalding Moor died 1885 in Stockbridge, Mass, USA, married Francis Stephenson
Mercy cr 26.3.1814 Skeckling with Burstwick, died 18.3.1859 age 48 Patrington, married William Harness 28.11.1831 Burton Pidsea – they had 11 children – this is my line
George cr 25.12.1816 Skeckling with Burstwick – no further info
William born 16.6.1819, cr 15.8.1819 Skeckling with Burstwick, died Russia? married Eleanor Lee 26.9.1851 St Petersburg, Russia – I can only find 2 children for them Matthew and Mary
Hannah cr 6.6.1822 Skeckling with Burstwick died 5.12.1846, buried 7.12.1846 Burstwick

Children of William HARNESS and Mercy nee Abbey
Elizabeth cr 2.12.1833 Burton Pidsea
George cr 8.2.1835, buried 27.2.1835 Skeckling with Burstwick
George Matthew cr 1.12.1836 Skeckling with Burstwick – this is my line
William cr 30.6.1839 Skeckling with Burstwick
Johnson cr 27.6.1841 Skeckling with Burstwick
Anna Maria cr 15.9.1843 Skeckling with Burstwick
Mary cr 14.12.1845 Ridgemont with Burstwick
John cr 23.12.1847 Skeckling with Burstwick
Mercy Ann bc 1849 Skeckling with Burstwick
Thomas born 3.6.1851 Skeckling with Burstwick
Henry bc 1853 Patrington

I hope I haven't bored you all to tears with all this, I look forward to hearing from you

Regards
sre

[Fel]

Welcome sre,

I found your info most interesting and useful, that was quite a task you took on!

Many thanks

Fel

[Fel]

Hi sre,
Further to your "tree":-  William and Eleanor Lee had the following children.
Matthew Lee, John, Lily b.1854, William b.1855, Mary Elizabeth b.1861, Alfred Shepherd b. 1863, Walter b. 1865.
Alfred married Margaret Hannah Ritson b. 1861. They are my Grandparents.

Regards
Fel.

[sre]

Hi Fel

Many thanks for your reply ..... for the most part everything has been verified by the University of York's Borthwick Institute and parish registers ......

Thank you for listing the children of William and Eleanor nee Lee (I only had a couple).... were they all born Russia and do you have actual dates for them?

I've been trying to find out just when Matthew and Mercy went to Russia and have come across a few snippets, if you are interested please let me know ......

Regards
sre

[Tarquille]

Hi all. I am new here and not quite sure where to start. I have read everything and would like to offer my own contribution. I am a Lawson and a direct descendant of William Abbay and Eleanor Lee who were my great-great-grandparents on my father's side. The information that I have seems to be very close to that of Fel who I am sure is a close relative as he has the same letters that I have, written by Mathew Abbey to Mary, and also a document which was written by Evelyn Abbey and which we refer to as "The Abbey Saga". Consequently I'm not sure if I will be able to contribute anything new to the discussion but I am very happy to participate and offer what information I have. Above all it is great to feel that I may be getting in touch with some living relatives!

I have an online family tree at MyHeritage.com at the following address:

http://www.myheritage.com/site-family-tree-183214822/lawson-family

It is public except for living relatives who remain private.

I'm afraid I don't have much in the form of actual documents.