My ABBAY/ABBEY family went to Russia c.1838 !!

[tiggertwo]

Hi myfi:
On your site page 4 item 56, you left me a personal message.  I can't access this.  Please can you post it on my tiggertwo site.

I know it's old but I just came across it.  I think my gggrandfather might have been George Fairbanks Abbey.  Do you know if Sophie Ehrens was Austrian?  Any info about this couple would be much appreciated.

Thanks a lot.

tiggertwo

[Myfi!]

Hi Tiggertwo 

Just checked that message I sent you-

It was a reference to UK incoming passengers 3 May 1920 HMT "Tagus" list of Russian refugees which included these Abbey folk:

Alfred ABBEY age 56
E. ABBEY (female) not sure if it says 34 or 74 (bit blurry)
William ABBEY age 52
Mrs W. ABBEY age 54
Walter ABBEY age 52
Anna ABBEY  age 55

Myfi

[Myfi!]

George Fairbanks ABBEY bapt 20 Oct 1841 Skeckling with Burstwick s/o of Joseph & Jane (Fairbanks) ABBEY. George married Sophie Ehren 1862 Russia
Joseph ABBEY bapt 14 Feb 1814 Selby s/o Marmaduke & Mary (Campey) ABBEY
Marmaduke (sometimes referred to as Duke) ABBEY bapt 29 Mar. 1773 Brayton s/o William & Mary (Hawcroft) ABBEY

William ABBEY bapt 15 Aug 1819 Skeckling with Burstwick s/o Matthew & Mercy (Smart) ABBEY. William married Eleanor Lee 1851 Russia.
Matthew ABBEY bapt 22 Jan 1785 Brayton s/o William & Mary (Hawcroft) ABBEY

think this makes George Fairbank Abbey b1841 & William Abbey b1819 second cousins.

Not too sure that you are descended from George Fairbanks Abbey as you have a photo of Eleanor(Lee)Abbey and family.

hope this makes sense

Myfi

[mocca]

I have been following this forum with much interest because my gggrandparents were also William Abbey and Eleanor Lee . Their marriage on 26th September 1851 in the British and American Chapel in St Petersburg is recorded on the National Archive site as is the wedding of their daughter Mary to Thomas Pollock on 17th May 1888. I think that the reason why so many of the family returned to the West Midlands after the Revolution was because Tom Pollock had, by then, become a very successful businessman , was living in Sutton Coldfield and was able to offer them some support .

[Myfi!]

Hi Mocca 

Welcome to Rootschat

It's great to have you join us.

We would appreciate any information you may have on William & Eleanor(Lee) Abbey, especially the names of all their children if you have them.

Myfi

[mocca]

Hi Mifi

I have some information about William and Eleanor's family but not all the dates of birth.

        John      (related to Tiggertwo)
        Alfred
        Matthew ( died in Russia sometime before 1917)
        Lily ( Louisa)  born 1854 died 1938)
        William ( born 1855)
        Mary    ( born 1861 died UK 1935)
        Walter (born 1865  died UK  1953 )

Do hope this is useful information.

Does anyone have any information about a painter called Edwin Austen Abbey who has a plaque in St Pauls Cathedral . He was American and painted the coronation portrait of Edward VII. According to family legend he also a member of the family but I'm not sure how he is connected!

[Myfi!]

many thanks Mocca

afraid I have no knowledge of Edwin Austen Abbey.

Just found this for Mary Elizabeth (Abbey) Pollock which may be of interest for anyone researching her-

Index to Wills 1936 - POLLOCK Mary Elizabeth of Park Vale Wylde Green Sutton Coldfield
                               Warwickshire (wife of Thomas Pollock) died 10 April 1936 
                                Probate Birmingham 5 September to Thomas Pollock company director
                                and William Pollock departmental manager.  Effects  £50900  14s  9d

Myfi

[mocca]

Hi Myfi

Thanks for the information about Mary Pollock's will. That is a lot of money when translated into its value today.

Mocca

[Myfi!]

Hi Mocca

Certainly was a lot of money.

Wonder if this could be for her brother Matthew

Wills and Administrations 1921 - ABBEY Matthew Edwin of Moscow Russia died 1 March 1916
                                                Administration London 19 October to Margaret Abbey widow
                                                Effects £106

 I forgot to ask, which of William & Eleanor's children are you descended from?

Myfi