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1851 - 1871 (Either) - Hawkins family Ryde
« on: Wednesday 09 April 08 13:22 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I'm looking for a family of Hawkins (quite a popular name!). The family in 1871 would have been Walter or George Hawkins and Ellen (his wife). Their children at that point - Walter, James and Alice. Walter/George was born in Highfield/Ryde (it varies!) in about 1846.

I was wondering whether there was any indication on what his real name is and whether Walter had any brothers on the earlier census'.

Another theory is that Walter and George were brothers who married the same woman. Perhaps Walter died and George took over??

Any help would be appreciated, ???

James

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Re: 1851 - 1871 (Either) - Hawkins family Ryde
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 14:12 BST (UK) »
1871
RG10/1167 folio 5 page 4
Whitefield Brickyard, Ryde
Walter HAWKINS age 29  brickmaker  born Southampton
wife Ellen age  26 born Ryde
Walter H  age  5 born Ryde
James F age 5 born Ryde
Alice E age 2 born Ryde
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
 All UK census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: 1851 - 1871 (Either) - Hawkins family Ryde
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 14:23 BST (UK) »
This look like the best bet in 1861 but there are few Walter HAWKINS of the correct age.

RG9/658 folio 85 page 1
Taylors Beer Shop, Ashey Road, Newchurch
Walter HAWKINS age 20 brickmaker born  N K Hampshire
boarding in the house of Charles TAYLOR brickmaker and beer seller

He's got the right occupation.
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
 All UK census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: 1851 - 1871 (Either) - Hawkins family Ryde
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 14:33 BST (UK) »
I think this is one that you will have to get the marriage certificate for to be sure you are following the correct Walter HAWKINS.

Again this looks the best bet in 1851.

HO107/1665 folio 243 page 22
Living at The Hermitage, Godshill, IOW
Robert HAWKINS age 37 gamekeeper born Monden, Dorset
wife Harriett age 40 Laundress born South Stoneham, Hants
children
Harriet 14
Charles 12
Walter/Walton? 10
George 4 all born South Stoneham
William 2 born Godshill

plus farm labourer Henry BUSSELL 23, wife Charlotte 21 and their daughter Ellen 3 mths
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
 All UK census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


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Re: 1851 - 1871 (Either) - Hawkins family Ryde
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 14:37 BST (UK) »
The IOWFHS has a marriage for George HAWKINS to either Ellen HAWKINS or Ellen HAWS in a Register Office, Nonconformist or RC Church in 1878.

So it's possible that Ellen married 2 brothers but you will need to get the certificates to be sure.
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
 All UK census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: 1851 - 1871 (Either) - Hawkins family Ryde
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 18:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Bearkat, thanks for all the information. You've been extremely helpful. Thanks again.

James  :D

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Re: 1851 - 1871 (Either) - Hawkins family Ryde
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 21:44 BST (UK) »
Walter b 1865, James b 1867 and Alice b 1868 - mother was recorded as Howe or How on the birth registrations.  Lucy was born in 1871, Emily 1876, Kate in 1878 and Charlotte in 1879.  For Charlotte the other names shown are How and Hawkins.

Walter Hawkins married Ellen Howe in All Saints, Newchurch on the Isle of Wight in 1864.

Walter Hawkins died in 1877 aged 35.  A Walter Smithers Hawkins was born in 1845 in the Newport area of the Isle of Wight - maybe not the right one.

A George Hawkins registered in the Godshill area in 1848.

Nell
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