1891 Census Lookup Liverpool

[VICTORIA]

Would SKP lookup 1891 Census Liverpool please .

Elizabeth Dickinson born Salford 1847 Widow in 1881

John Dickinson Son born Salford 1865

Margaret Dickinson Daur born Salford 1871

William Dickinson Son born Salford 1874

Elizabeth Dickinson Daur born Salford 1876.

Victoria

[aggiebagwash]

Sorry can't see the family on the 1891. The relevent page could be missing but I have also looked under various spellings, just under first names and birth dates and first names and Salford.

I looked for a marriage for Elizabeth and found 12 possibles from 1881-1898. I then looked for them under their married names on the 1891 and 1901 censuses but none came from Salford and none had children with the same names.

I have found  the death of an Elizabeth Dickinson age 37 in the 2nd quarter 1886 in Liverpool. The age is slightly out but it could be her.

I also looked for the children on the 1891 but found none giving their place of birth as Salford. There is a John Dickinson born about 1865 a boarder living in Everton but with no place of birth. Margaret Dickinson a servant in Liverpool born 1872 who gives her place of birth as West Derby. Couldn't find a William but did find an Elizabeth born 1876 a servant born Liverpool living in Southport. I suppose it could be reasonable to assume that if Elizabeth died the children would have been placed in the Workhouse or orphanage. If this is the case then the children may have presumed that because they lived in Liverpool that was where they were born.

Margaret

[VICTORIA]

Hi Margaret,

Thanks for all your help.

I found record of marriage that I think was this couple but it would have made them age approx 13.
June Q 1862. 8d 292 Manchester Cathedral

John Dickinson    Elizabeth Lyons.

I found family 1871 Liverpool RG10 3827 Folio 54

Boarding  with Pearce family. 53 Lancaster Street Kirkdale

John Dickinson m  22 Carter
Elizabeth Dickinson 26
John E Dickinson 7       All born Manchester

1881 Census RG11 3605 Folio 148

56 Sawney Pope Street Liverpool

Elizabeth Dickinson Head W 34 Bottling Ser N K ( cellarwoman)
John Dickinson Son 16 Gen Labourer
Margaret Dickinson  Daur 10
William Dickinson Son 7
Elizabeth Dickinson Daur 5  All born Salford.

I found two records of death for John Dickinson
1879 Age 23 Dec Q West Derby 8b 261
1877 Age 24 June Q West Derby 8b 257.

If Elizabeth the mother died 1886 then as you say the children would have been sent to the workhouse.
I would be interested in records you found for John, Elizabeth, and Margaret.
Thank you again for your help.

Victoria

[Molly H]

Hi Margaret,

Thanks for all your help.

I found record of marriage that I think was this couple but it would have made them age approx 13.
June Q 1862. 8d 292 Manchester Cathedral

John Dickinson    Elizabeth Lyons.

I found family 1871 Liverpool RG10 3827 Folio 54

Boarding  with Pearce family. 53 Lancaster Street Kirkdale

John Dickinson m  22 Carter
Elizabeth Dickinson 26
John E Dickinson 7       All born Manchester

1881 Census RG11 3605 Folio 148

56 Sawney Pope Street Liverpool

Elizabeth Dickinson Head W 34 Bottling Ser N K ( cellarwoman)
John Dickinson Son 16 Gen Labourer
Margaret Dickinson  Daur 10
William Dickinson Son 7
Elizabeth Dickinson Daur 5  All born Salford.

I found two records of death for John Dickinson
1879 Age 23 Dec Q West Derby 8b 261
1877 Age 24 June Q West Derby 8b 257.

If Elizabeth the mother died 1886 then as you say the children would have been sent to the workhouse.
I would be interested in records you found for John, Elizabeth, and Margaret.
Thank you again for your help.

Victoria

I would like to find out if "Victoria" may be a descendant of this family?  My husband's grandmother was Elizabeth Dickinson.  She and her brother William were sent to Ontario Canada as Home Children by the Catholic Church in 1887.  Your assumption was correct that they (E and W) were sent to the Workhouse in 1886, and from there transferred to the training school for about a year.  Their sibs were Margaret Ann and John, but they never knew what became of them.  We do not have the parents' names, only that they were both dead, father in a work accident.  There are many descendants in Canada. Hope to hear back from you.

Molly H

[VICTORIA]

Hi Molly. Sorry for taking so long to reply. I was helping a relative of mine research her family. My original post was some time ago. Since then I believe the family she was searching for proved to be not related. I hope you can find the information you require re your search.
Victoria.

[Molly H]

re our DICKINSON family.   Thanks for your reply Victoria!  Would appreciate it if you're not sure if your relative  did or did not link this family to her family, if you could check please.  We so would love to be in touch with any descendants or find out more about what happened to John and Margaret Dickinson.

[VICTORIA]

I will see if I can find information re your family for you. Get back to you asap.
Victoria