Help needed reading Norfolk Loccation

[willow154]

That's what I thought, but decided I might be on the wrong track.
Paulene

[jjq]

Hi

I have got the baptisms of the two daughters 1822/1825 - confirming the parents are James & Phoebe (father - cordwainer). One daughter is baptised Caroline Sharman Nobbs.  Still doesn't explain why there is no parents  marriage until 1834 - unless they tied the knot after having the children!! - still on the scent of Phoebe - may have to order a few more entries.

Thanks once again to all who have replied.


Regards

Jan

[howdee]

Is it me or does the first letter of the word (1861) look exactly like the N in Norfolk?

I thought it was Town in the first entry too.

Howard Nobbs

[jjq]

Hi everyone

I have had a look again at the 1851 entry and have posted a bit more of it - for comparison of handwriting. But, I do not know if it is of any help! I am no expert on handwriting - apart from  having bad handwriting when I was at school.

Many thanks for all your thoughts!

Regards

Jan

[gjb]

Hi,

James and Phoebe were married quite late in their lives, is it possible that James was married to another Phoebe and this being his second marriage? Could it have been that Phoebe Germany was also married before to James Knobbs?

I dont know if this is much help but it looks as if two nephews in her household in 1851 census (Sweatman's), William Swetman looks as if he was bapt. 31 JAN 1813 Saint Michael Coslany.  This may help you find a link, if they are related to Phoebe through a sister??,  someone appears to have him as William Sweatman on GenesReunited.  Although they may be related to the Knobbs.

regards

GJB

[jjq]

Hi GJB,


That thought has occured to me - regarding the nephews, assuming they were hers and not her husbands. I have found them transcribed recorded in various spellings!

Regarding the marriage - I have not been able to find anything (yet) regarding a first marriage for James Nobbs or Phoebe.  - there are a lot of James's out there, born about the right time.  The 1841 census is not a great deal of help either( I note that William Swetman is there).  I will following up all avenues suggested - unless I manage to get to the records office there. The coverage on the IGI is not great for that county.

Regards - and thanks - off to sort out William S!

Jan

[jjq]

OK - have been following up the Swetman link......

William Swetman - born about 1812/1814

On the 1841 census - he was a shoemaker aged 25 - born out of counter.
Later censuses give Norwich & Norfolk

Baptism of William Swetman 31 January 1813  Norwich St Michael at Coslany, Norfolk
Also a James - baptised 1814 - Both sons of William & Ann

Have not found a marriage for William and Ann, BUT have found a marriage of ..
1. William Swatman & Henrietta Lyon/Loyn 1783 St Margaret's, Norwich
&
2. Mark Knobs & Henrietta Swatman - widow - either 1793 or 1796  St Michaels Coslany, Norwich.

These are 2 leads that I will need to follow up - The latter had a son James, but it is not clear whether he died in infancy. I have found these on various internet sources, so I need to get in touch with the Norwich records office again to get copies of the original entries!

Fingers crossed - but it seems too much of a coincidence!!

Will keep you all posted!


Regards


Jan