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Relatives standoffish towards non English ancestors.
« on: Sunday 06 April 08 19:53 BST (UK) »
Hi

I have a 5xgreat grandfather who was Scottish and several 5 and 6x great grandparents who were the grandchildren of French Huguenot refugees in London and am more than pleased to have some non English ancestors. I dont want just a family tree that has a complete set on English rellies.

I am exceptionally pleased to have a bit of Scottish bagpipes in me. When I told my aunty she just said "Well that has probably well worn away by now". I thought, "Why"? I love non English ancestors.

Have you any relatives that dont like the fact that they have foreign overseas ancestors or UK but non English ancestors such as Welsh, Irish or Scottish ancestors?

Ben
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Relatives standoffish towards non English ancestors.
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 06 April 08 21:10 BST (UK) »
I have Huguenot ancestors too. My mother's surname Honeysett is French Huguenot. :)

I had a similar problem when contacting a relative online. She had a common ancestor with me but she didn't seem too pleased that they were in fact Jewish as she had always believed them to be Irish. At first she just dismissed the link in our families but I sent her the information I had and I never really heard back from her again.

It was a shame really as I have very few living relatives descended from that line. I hope I didn't upset her and would love to hear back from her again.  :(
Romany/Traveller:
BLACKMAN, BUCKLAND, BURGESS, DIX, DOBSON, FOLEY, GRANT/PARKER, HUNT, JONES, MUNDAY/MONDAY, MORGAN, NOYELL, ORCHARD, PAGE, REED, VINCENT

Jewish:
BRAHAM, FROST, LYONS

French:
HONEYSETT, LEVETT PETTIT

English:
BELSHAW, BETTSWORTH, CANE, COVENTRY, DOBSON, FRY,  NURSE, POOK, PUTLAND, PUTT, SMITH, SNELGROVE, TEE, TUDGAY, VENUS/VENESS

Irish:
ANDERSON, KILLOUGH, MACCORMACK, MACROBERTS, MORTON, MOORE, WALLACE

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Re: Relatives standoffish towards non English ancestors.
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 06 April 08 21:22 BST (UK) »
Hi

Wre your Jewish ancestors Polish, Russian or German Jews??

My French Huguenots came to London in 1865 mainly from Normandy or West France. The names are Auber, Fradin, Morin, Pequin etc. They were silk weavers and craftsmen and worshippped in many French churches in the East End Of London.

Ben
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Relatives standoffish towards non English ancestors.
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 06 April 08 21:31 BST (UK) »
Hi

Wre your Jewish ancestors Polish, Russian or German Jews??

My French Huguenots came to London in 1865 mainly from Normandy or West France. The names are Auber, Fradin, Morin, Pequin etc. They were silk weavers and craftsmen and worshippped in many French churches in the East End Of London.

Ben


:( Mine were always more lowly, the oldest two I know of are Jacques and Adrien Annesett who were murderers. I have the court transcript from the 1500s (I think) - very far back indeed.
I have most of my information from hunnisett.org - Frengman means Frenchman.

Between 4 and 5pm on 28 July in Frankham Park in Wadhurst Adrian Annesett late of Wadhurst, 'Frengman', murdered Jordan Tassen late of Wadhurst, 'Frengman', with a knife called 'a Flemysprake' worth 3d. which was held in his right hand, giving him a wound in the right side 2 inches long of which he immediately died.   John Annesett late of Wadhurst, 'Frengman', aided and abetted him in committing the murder, after which they both immediately fled.

I think they were mainly metal workers though.

My Jews were Sephardic, originally from Spain/Portugal they then went to Holland and then onto England sometime in the 18th Century. John Braham the tenor is my great, great, great, great, great grandfather's brother. :)


Romany/Traveller:
BLACKMAN, BUCKLAND, BURGESS, DIX, DOBSON, FOLEY, GRANT/PARKER, HUNT, JONES, MUNDAY/MONDAY, MORGAN, NOYELL, ORCHARD, PAGE, REED, VINCENT

Jewish:
BRAHAM, FROST, LYONS

French:
HONEYSETT, LEVETT PETTIT

English:
BELSHAW, BETTSWORTH, CANE, COVENTRY, DOBSON, FRY,  NURSE, POOK, PUTLAND, PUTT, SMITH, SNELGROVE, TEE, TUDGAY, VENUS/VENESS

Irish:
ANDERSON, KILLOUGH, MACCORMACK, MACROBERTS, MORTON, MOORE, WALLACE


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Re: Relatives standoffish towards non English ancestors.
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 06 April 08 21:37 BST (UK) »
I have Welsh, Scottish, Huguenot and Scandanavian blood mixed in with my English, all of which I adore.  All on my mums side except the Huguenots, they're only half related to me as my great great great gran's 1st hubby married into them and I'm from the 2nd hubby, although their son carried the Hugenot name as he was born before his parents marriage.

My only slight I suppose snobbery is towards my Herts and Beds ancestors.  Being a proud Yorkshire family we were all a little disappointed to find one line didn't originate from Yorkshire on my dad's side!  Oops!

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DUR-Bainbridge,Hodgson,Richardson,Walker,Thompson,Armory,Wynn,Humble,Dunn,Chapman,Herin
YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood, Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow
NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton
NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson
LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson
WL-Williams

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Re: Relatives standoffish towards non English ancestors.
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 15 May 08 20:26 BST (UK) »
I have the complete opposite. I have an uncle who refuses to hear anything about our English ancestors, who are proving to be rather interesting. He insists it is all Irish in our blood. Well, he should pay to send me over there to find them then.  :o

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Sligo: Davey (also Mayo), McCluskey, McNulty
Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
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Re: Relatives standoffish towards non English ancestors.
« Reply #6 on: Friday 23 May 08 02:40 BST (UK) »
Thankfully things are a little less ... erm ... isolationist (?), nowadays, ... because I strongly suspect, that ... had my late mother-in-law known that her 2xgt grandfather was Chinese ... she would have been absolutely mortified!   She was quite okay with having had a Swedish grandfather (although not delighted by the fact that nobody seemed able to trace his roots - a situation which persists to this day), ... but 'way back when she was a child, unfortunately, the Chinese immigrants were not highly regarded.  Quite sad, considering the amount of work these so-called "coolies" did, to help build Australia's rural heritage.  They certainly have my respect.
I live in Sydney, Australia, and I'm researching: Powell, Tatham, Dunbar, Dixon, Mackwood, Kinnear, Mitchell, Morgan, Delves, & Anderson

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Re: Aubers etc
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 09 August 08 01:00 BST (UK) »
Hi Ben

My maternal grandmother's paternal grandmother was an Auber.  The family tree shows up Helsdons and Harbords (from Norwich), plus Fradines, Morins and Pequins from London EC.

What do you know about them, particularly the Aubers (I can track them back only s far as 1750, but suspect the name came from the Dieppe area).

PaulW
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Re: Relatives standoffish towards non English ancestors.
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 26 October 08 02:12 GMT (UK) »

My Jews were Sephardic, originally from Spain/Portugal they then went to Holland and then onto England sometime in the 18th Century. John Braham the tenor is my great, great, great, great, great grandfather's brother. :)


My wife is a Braham descendant.  A distant cousin has a reference to a connection with John Braham, but we are unable to confirm the link.  I would be very interested to find out whether my wife is indeed related to John Braham.

(By the way she is proud of all her ancestry, English, Scottish, Irish, Jewish and Chinese.)