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Tralee barracks?
« on: Sunday 06 April 08 15:01 BST (UK) »
hello all
does anyone have any information on an army barracks at Tralee i have searched the web and only come up with one which was called Ballymullen barracks would this be correct? i have a birth certificate of my gg grandfather (henry john Selby) first son which was listed on the army register so was able to send for that with out too much trouble!! on the top of the cert it says 17th brigade regiment of depot place of birth is Tralee and rank of father is Sergeant. I know the family came to england between 1873 and 1875 and henry's regiment was then the Lancashire fusiliers stationed at wellington barracks, bury.
would there be any records at all of the people who were stationed there i found on the familysearch web site a birth ref for the second child which says Kerry barracks

any advice or information would be very gratefully received
regards
kirstie
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Re: Tralee barracks?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 07 April 08 14:24 BST (UK) »
Hello Kirstie,
Ballymullen is a Townland.in the Parish of Ratass.the barony is Trughamacmy,or Trughamakmy.
In history in 1810 there was a barracks that was called ballymullen barracks.In part of the parish of Ratass also a goal.
  The barracks accomodated 17 officers, 456 non commissioned officers and privates. 6 horses and a hospital for 30 men.
 Tralee is the poor-law-union.
   AS for records have you tried the National Archives of Ireland. Or you could try putting a post on the Military on this board there are some very good people that know alot about Military.Hope this as helped you a little.
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Re: Tralee barracks?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 07 April 08 14:53 BST (UK) »
For what I think you probably want to know, you need to approach it from a different direction.

The army pay and muster lists will track the movements of the regiments. These are available at the National Archives.

His army discharge papers will provide you with a summary of his army career. These are also at the National Archives and it may be possible to order these remotely if you have a rough idea of when he was discharged.


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Re: Tralee barracks?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 07 April 08 19:50 BST (UK) »
hi leprechaun and pharmakon thankyou so much for your replies i haven't tried the archives yet but i will do. Henry was discharged on 9 DEC 1885 which i found on the times archives he went on to be a clerk for the manchester school board and lived in Pendleton in bury i have quite a bit of info on him when he came to england but none when he was in ireland i am determined this year to find out more about his early life and where he came from in ireland lol
do you think his army records will be at national archives in London? the info i have is that he went from Sergent major to quartermaster in June 1883 then retired in 1885 which would have made him around 40 years old

thanks again for both your advice
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kirstie
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Re: Tralee barracks?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 08 April 08 08:38 BST (UK) »
Have a look at this...
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=14

The first place to try for his records is in pieces WO 97/2172 - WO 97/4231 which are arranged in alphabetical order.

Have a look at the catalogue and work out which piece you reckon his papers should be in. It looks to me as if it should be WO 97/3824. If that's unsuccessful, there are other places to try.

Shout if there's anything you don't understand.

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Re: Tralee barracks?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 19:50 BST (UK) »
hi pharmakon thankyou so much for the information you have posted i have read the leaflet  and it sounds very positive that there could be some info for me to find

thankyou for your advice and help i will let you know how i get on

kindest regards
kirstie
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Re: Tralee barracks?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 18 July 08 12:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Kirstie,
sorry I missed your first post in April.

How have you got on?

You may have discovered by now that it is the 70th Brigade you are seeking based at Ballymullen barracks from 1873.

The 101st and 104th brigades ( later known as the Munster Fusiliers ) where based in Tralee.

You can indeed get all the army records at the National Archives at Kew.

If you live far from there though, I can recommended Richard Moles, who is an army historian. He will carry out the research for you as he is in the NA most days. His rates are very reasonable and he is a helpful guy. he will send you full copies of all your relatives records.

The National Archives will give you his contact number as they do recommend him.

Hope this helps

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Re: Tralee barracks?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 11 July 09 00:44 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Tralee Barracks and Ballymullen Barracks are one and the same. The barracks is still there and is occupied on a part time basis by the Irish Defence Forces. Ballymullen is a short distance outside the town of Tralee in Co. Kerry. The barracks is a little the worst for wear nowadays as it no longer permanently occupied, but most of the original buildings are still intact. If you write to the Officer Commanding they might be able to facilitate a visit, however it is a military post so there is no guarantee that you'd be admitted.

Hope that helps.

Regards,

S.

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Re: Tralee barracks?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 08 December 09 19:49 GMT (UK) »
im currently stationed in ballymullen barracks which is still used by the irish reserves(me) and a few permanent Irish army.most of the barracks looks the same as time your gg grandfather was there bar part of the main building burned down By the the I.R.A in 1922.its a five minute walk from the town centre and was located next door to tralee goal.Tralee library where tralee historical society is based should have records
as you can see from the pic the left wing of the main building was destroyed by the I.R.A