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Re: Duffield 1871 census-Bethnal Green
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 03 April 08 17:18 BST (UK) »
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illeg son of a daughter and just made up thename Samuel for a dad

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Re: Duffield 1871 census-Bethnal Green
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 03 April 08 17:20 BST (UK) »
No birth on FreeBMD for a William Duffield around 1860 born London City.

There are loads of them, so risky to pick one out, but if you like risks, the best I could find is
Jan/Feb/Mar 1863
Bethnal grn Reg disr
1c 349

with fits in with the 8 year old.

(Julie - I see you are online - are you following all of this? !!)
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Duffield 1871 census-Bethnal Green
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 03 April 08 17:25 BST (UK) »
Hi yes im following all of this, just getting my bearings thanks for all your help. i might take a gamble with your last message and go for ordering the birth cert. So not much luck with samuels father either ive tried and tried. thankyou for trying regards julie

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Re: Duffield 1871 census-Bethnal Green
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 03 April 08 17:37 BST (UK) »
Tricky one this, 'cos if that birth cert does prove that its owner is a child of one of Francis and Elizabeth or Francis and Mary's children, it still does not prove it is the same chappie who married Harold/Herald. 
Nor does it disprove it though, as if he was illegitimate he could well have invented Samuel.

Such are the joys of family history!!

Have you got him on 1891 /1901? Just in case he has an aged parent with him or something helpful.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Duffield 1871 census-Bethnal Green
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 03 April 08 17:44 BST (UK) »
Grrr
havnt got him in 1891, but in looking have found a 28 yr old William Duffield bn Bethnal Green, unmarried.
So that looks like who that birth is for.
And maybe even the grandson on 1871 census, who knows.

He is listed as son of John and Elizabeth Gray - guess he is Elizabeth's son from a previous marriage.

Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Duffield 1871 census-Bethnal Green
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 03 April 08 17:53 BST (UK) »
John and Elizabeth Grey are married in 1881 and 1871, but no sign of William.
Prob 'cos he is with granny in 1871!

But this one is looking less likely, seeing him in 1891


(btw - both John and Elizabeth Grey, and Grandparents Duffield, all bn Norfolk. But living in Bethnal green area)
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Duffield 1871 census-Bethnal Green
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 03 April 08 17:57 BST (UK) »
Hi yes i have him in 1891 and 1901 as a cork cutter but no parents with him at all.  I have Williams father on Williams marriage cert as  a shoemaker the same as the heralds occupation as a shoe maker as well living next door to the inlaws.

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Re: Duffield 1871 census-Bethnal Green
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 03 April 08 18:00 BST (UK) »
OK everyone - cancel the last million posts!

I can now prove that 'our' William is not the same as the one born 1863 in Bethanl Green who I have been following!

I have found 'our' one in 1891
RG12 280 132 22
 with Mary Ann wife, dtr CAroline Elizabeth aged 10 and son Charles aged 1.

William says he was born in east Smithfield London, is 31 and is still a cork cutter
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Duffield 1871 census-Bethnal Green
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 03 April 08 18:07 BST (UK) »
And to complete the picture, 1901
RG13 331 25 41

He is 41, so consistant with age
and says born Whitechapel this time
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk