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Offline Willow 4873

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Re: Online commercial databases
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 02 April 08 15:17 BST (UK) »
I'll second familyhistoryonline

It came up with the marriage and burial of my 4 x GGrandfathers first wife - which slightly miffed a cousin who was researching the same line and had been looking for the info for years  ;D

I can see it heading towards a Findmypast subscription for me

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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 02 April 08 15:31 BST (UK) »
I'll second familyhistoryonline

It came up with the marriage and burial of my 4 x GGrandfathers first wife - which slightly miffed a cousin who was researching the same line and had been looking for the info for years  ;D



Me too Willow - except it was my 3x g grandfather's one and only marriage. No-one else researching that line had found it as he'd slipped out of county.

Jan ;)

And of course Welcome to Rootschat Harry - the best of the free resources :D
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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 02 April 08 16:02 BST (UK) »
There is much to criticize about Ancestry, but I think it gives the best coverage. I have done some little stats tables on records in Anc, FindMyPast and The Gen;
with my names Ancestry came out best (for finding most correct names in census).

There are also many extras like Pallot's marriage index and obscure databases from parishes if you look.  I think it is worth going to try it out at your library. But whatever you do (in my opinion, but it is shared by many others) do not be seduced into using their online trees.

Findmypast is nicer to use in some ways, The Genealogist has some great things like the maps.  Unfortunately when I used it recently I found many errors in census data; more than Ancestry (and that is saying something).  They do get back to you if you report the errors, but some of them were very obvious mis-readings of clear census pages.

Try them out if you can, but I think if you are starting that Ancestry is best.  There are often special offers on membership - I cannot see any today, but there may be around WDYTYA in May.  Look at the covers of the many Family History magazines to see if they have any offers.
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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 02 April 08 22:27 BST (UK) »
I agree that Ancestry is essential if you can only afford one subscription. It takes time to find your way around it but there is a lot more than just the censuses.

I subscribed to the Genealogist for a couple of years, and liked this too. It is much easier to search the BMDs than Ancestry, and has (I think) all the censuses now. The Phillimore transciptions of parish records is very good, although that would depend on your counties.

At the moment I have Ancestry and Findmypast, but I'm a bit disappointed with the latter, and probably wont continue with it after a year.

If you are choosing one of the three I would definitely go for Ancestry, I can't imagine that I would give that up in spite of its annoyances.

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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 03 April 08 06:45 BST (UK) »
H Harry i use UKBMD.org.uk of wiltshire. (not complete yet?) if the name you want is there you can click on the link, fill in the form to get cert. direct from local office. John

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« Reply #14 on: Thursday 03 April 08 08:54 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome Harry, i am like Christopher and like any of the ones that are free ;D
with the cost of certificates and the price some sites charge for records all in all this is a very expensive game. So anything i can get for free gets my vote.
AND THE BEST THING THATS FREE IS HERE,  ROOTSCHAT ;D
but youcould also tried this thread yet?
Migky ;)


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« Reply #15 on: Thursday 03 April 08 12:23 BST (UK) »
For all its faults, Ancestry redeems itself somewhat by having a very powerful search engine, so you can often find things in spite of the sometimes bizarre transcriptions.

The other thing you need to watch out for with Ancestry is that different databases are indexed in different ways, even when the are superficially similar. The documents in the two WW1 Army Records series are very similar, but the Service Records (aka Burnt Documents) includes a searchable field for residence that the Pensions (Unburnt Documents) does not have.

Some of its databases, like the census, have been indexed by/for Ancestry, from the original documents. Others, like the telephone directories, have been scanned using OCR, and are 'untouched by human hand' as it were. Some of the results are a little odd!

Findmypast is generally good with regard to quality of indexing - their very first product was the full set of BMD indexes, which were orginally produced for in-house use by Title Research, the parent company. So they had a  vested interest in their accuracy. Since then they have changed their name from 1837online and produced more databases, as well as acquiring existing ones from a business called The National Archivist, and from Familyhistoryonline. I can't vouch for the former, but the Familyhistoryonline material is generally of high quality. My main criticism of Findmypast is that their website is not as user-friendly as it might be.

The Genealogist generally has good quality information and some useful features, but it is very poor at describing the actual contents and coverage of a database. Their BMDregisters site is particularly disappointing in this regard, where the descriptions are inaccurate and rather misleading, although it includes clear images of the actual records. It is also very expensive, and the search facility leaves a lot to be desired, but hopefully this will improve as more records are added.

Some actual databases are available on more than one site, but even though the information is identical, the type of search engine used can make a difference. The FreeBMD database is also available on Ancestry, and I generally use the original FreeBMD, but sometimes the Ancestry one is more useful - you get the results in alphabetical order, not chronological as on FreeBMD, and you can cross-search with other Ancestry databases. The original 1881 census, compiled by volunteers under the direction of the LDS Church, is available all over the place, but again, there are differences depending on the search engine. The version on Ancestry has the added advantage that it contains submitted corrections and alternate names.

Finally no-one has mentioned Familyrelatives.com, which I have not used, but I know some experienced researchers who rate it highly.

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« Reply #16 on: Thursday 03 April 08 13:04 BST (UK) »
Family relatives is good if you want to isolate an individual, 1860 - 1920.
eg. if I want to find all my William Clulo births in that time span, it will come up with all the William Clulo births individually in a list. You don't have to search lots of pages.
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Fisher- Nafferton,Hull, Manchester.1770-1840-1950
Kane&McNeill,Forkhill, Armagh and Glasgow,Bray Dublin.1850s -1920
Boshell and Dowzard- Dublin, 1840s -1911
Kay/Bremner Edinburgh 1800 - 1841.Kay Staffs.& Lancs1842 -1901
Kay - Newcastle on Tyne 1780-1861
Swindell, Marple & Manchester 1900->
Makinson, M/c & Prestwich 1870 ->
Beacom/Jones - Enniskillen 1780 ->

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« Reply #17 on: Thursday 03 April 08 13:31 BST (UK) »
Finally no-one has mentioned Familyrelatives.com, which I have not used, but I know some experienced researchers who rate it highly.


Familyrelatives is, in my opinion, the biggest con on the internet at the moment, and I wouldn't touch it with a very long barge pole!

To view their "free" records, you have to subscribe and buy vouchers, otherwise they are locked. The vouchers aren't charged when you view the "free" records, but they have a time limit on them, so you have to use them on the rest of the site. Once they run out, the records are locked again!

Glen