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Re: Thursfields - a Long Shot!
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 31 March 09 22:01 BST (UK) »
Pat

I have most of the Durham Thursfields traced to about 1850 - could you tell me the names of the beneficiaries of the wills in the county palatine and dates and I'll check them off (it could also be Lancashire or Durham)

Ashley
DU: Jones, Miller, Laverick, Orwin, Burn, Finlay, Robson, Robinson, Jobling, Fenwick, Spoor, Saunders, Billingsley, Appleby
NB: Pickard, Gilchrist, Curry, Heron, Thompson, Bell, Henderson, Aynsley
CU: Bell, Armstrong, Parker
SY: Saunders, Bartlett, Ellis
SX: Bartlett, Cager
BK: Saunders
NY: Miller (Swaledale), Raw
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Re: Thursfields - a Long Shot!
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 01 April 09 08:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Ashley

It's John Thursfield dated 1625 labourer of Stoke on Trent.  So a bit of a large gap to fill in for your Durham Thursfields.

He mentions his brother Thomas Thursfield & married sister Betricia Sandford living in the county palantine,

Also a brother William Thursfield.

This will is what I base the Cheshire branch of the Thursfields  on.

Pat

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Re: Thursfields - a Long Shot!
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 01 April 09 09:56 BST (UK) »
Yes it would be quite a leap!

Please let me know if you find anything.

All the best

Ashley
DU: Jones, Miller, Laverick, Orwin, Burn, Finlay, Robson, Robinson, Jobling, Fenwick, Spoor, Saunders, Billingsley, Appleby
NB: Pickard, Gilchrist, Curry, Heron, Thompson, Bell, Henderson, Aynsley
CU: Bell, Armstrong, Parker
SY: Saunders, Bartlett, Ellis
SX: Bartlett, Cager
BK: Saunders
NY: Miller (Swaledale), Raw
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Re: Thursfields - a Long Shot!
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 01 April 09 10:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Ashley

Will do.

Pat
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Re: Thursfields - a Long Shot!
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 02 April 09 14:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Pat

Just in case you missed it on the Durham board I have just found the baptism for Hannah Tusfield in All Saints Newcaslte-u-T in 1771 and the marriage for John Tusfield and Eleanor Rowintree in 1770.

Thanks for your help on this that is a great breakthrough at least for Eleanor and Hannah, and thanks for the information about Isabel which made it all happen.

Cheers

Ashley
DU: Jones, Miller, Laverick, Orwin, Burn, Finlay, Robson, Robinson, Jobling, Fenwick, Spoor, Saunders, Billingsley, Appleby
NB: Pickard, Gilchrist, Curry, Heron, Thompson, Bell, Henderson, Aynsley
CU: Bell, Armstrong, Parker
SY: Saunders, Bartlett, Ellis
SX: Bartlett, Cager
BK: Saunders
NY: Miller (Swaledale), Raw
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Re: Thursfields - a Long Shot!
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 02 April 09 18:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Pat

Looking at the names of the children, they appear to be using English naming pattern.  Eleanor Rowintree was the daughter of James Rowintree and Isabel Chicken (James and Isabel are the names of the second daughter and second son).

Assuming this is the case John's parents would be Hannah (1st daughter) and Thomas (1st son)

On the IGI the only option I can see for this is John Thursfield b Newton-in-the-Moors in the Potteries.

If you have additional records and can provide alternatives I'd be very grateful

Ashley
DU: Jones, Miller, Laverick, Orwin, Burn, Finlay, Robson, Robinson, Jobling, Fenwick, Spoor, Saunders, Billingsley, Appleby
NB: Pickard, Gilchrist, Curry, Heron, Thompson, Bell, Henderson, Aynsley
CU: Bell, Armstrong, Parker
SY: Saunders, Bartlett, Ellis
SX: Bartlett, Cager
BK: Saunders
NY: Miller (Swaledale), Raw
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Re: Thursfields - a Long Shot!
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 02 April 09 21:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Ashley

is this John baptised 1746 Norton in the Moors.

I have him married to Margaret Thomas in Wellington, Shropshire in 1777. I will have to check for certain why. I think his age is on something given to me by a descendant who did a lot of research.

The other Johns are
John son of Katharine 1754 Norton in the Moors
John son of John & Hannah 1755 Wolstanton.
John son of John1744 Wybunbury, Cheshire
John son of Thomas of Brown Moss 1748 Wybunbury Cheshire
The John baptised 1737 Broseley is accounted for.

These are baptismal dates so might not be actual birth dates.

Pat






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Re: Thursfields - a Long Shot!
« Reply #16 on: Friday 03 April 09 09:19 BST (UK) »
Hi Pat

Thanks for those.

I looked at the one born in Wybunbury to Thomas but his mother's name was Rebecca which does not fit.  I had presumed that the one who was born in 1755 would have been too young to marry in 1770 and be marked as a potter (he would still be an apprentice I presume). 

I need to check the NCL All Saints marriages to see if there is further information - 1770 is missing from the BTs on the LDS site.

Thanks again for all your help - if I find more I'll get back

Ashley
DU: Jones, Miller, Laverick, Orwin, Burn, Finlay, Robson, Robinson, Jobling, Fenwick, Spoor, Saunders, Billingsley, Appleby
NB: Pickard, Gilchrist, Curry, Heron, Thompson, Bell, Henderson, Aynsley
CU: Bell, Armstrong, Parker
SY: Saunders, Bartlett, Ellis
SX: Bartlett, Cager
BK: Saunders
NY: Miller (Swaledale), Raw
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Re: Thursfields - a Long Shot!
« Reply #17 on: Friday 03 April 09 17:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Ashley

Will go with John son of Thomas & Hannah being the right chap because of his children's names fitting.  No harm done if we find out later it is wrong because you can alter it.

Not sure about apprenticeships in those days. Marriage ages I have found the following In 1753 it was fixed at 14 for men and 12 for women and remained at that until the Age of Marriage Act 1929 when it was raised to 16 for both."
Above taken verbatim from The Family Tree Detective by Colin D Rogers


Have checked with some info. that Mrs Diana Grant gave my brother. She doesn't give a baptism or burial for him & no parents named.

Her John, Margaret, Nancy age 12, William age 8, Thomas age 4 were removed from Newcastle under Lyme to Drayton in Hales in 1790 as place of last legal settlement. She doesn't give John's baptism details but seems to indicate he might have been married before he married Margaret Thomas who was a widow.

Also have settlement paper for Ann Thursfield daughter of John Thursfield feltmaker from Newcastle under Lyme being sent as a pauper apprentice to Styal in Cheshire in 1790. Place of settlement Market Drayton.

I have a death for John Thursfield age 79 of poor house buried 6 Dec 1824 with a note made by might  be Norton or Cheshire?

Getting back to Thomas & Hannah. I have them married in 1745 Norton in the Moors. Hannah's name was Leigh.
children
John 1746 Norton in the Moors
Stephen 1749/50 Norton in the Moors
Hannah 1753 Norton in the Moors
Thomas 1754 Norton in the Moors
James 1758 Norton in the Moors
Susannah 1761 Norton in the Moors

Thomas Buried 1765 Norton in the Moors
James buried 1765 Norton in the Moors


Looking for a baptism for Thomas married 1745 they are few & far between
I have got one not on the igi & that is Thomas Son of John & Ann at Trentham but that is in 1728.

I have checked names & dates but if I am out let me know.

Pat
Goulds of Sheffield, Thursfields of Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Archers of Smisby, Ropes of Earsham/Eastwood, Hursts of Dukinfield/Stalybridge/Kingsbury, Andrew roller makers of Stalybridge/Dukinfield.