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Re: Crichton Family
« Reply #54 on: Thursday 12 January 12 20:45 GMT (UK) »
I'll just list the answers to your questions, it will be simpler...

James Dyce 23 Bachelor, Carpenter, Grahamstown
married 3 Mar 1862
Ann Strachan Birnie 25 Spinster
in S.A. (found on geneologyworld.net, entry #25
I have not seen the actual record, it has been transcribed...

When he died his age was listed as 72. Father's name was also listed as Alexander..

He must have emigrated between 1851 (last time he was seen on U.K. census) and 1862, when he got married in S.A.

No, I have not seen the original 1851 census.

On the freecen 1851 census, where it says 18, I believe is a transcribing error and should read 12...

I am 99% sure the James Bannerman listed on the 1841 census is the same James...

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Re: Crichton Family
« Reply #55 on: Thursday 12 January 12 23:25 GMT (UK) »
What a pity they didn't marry in Scotland! I suppose that if it was a family member that registered the death of James, they would surely get his dad's name correct. Is it coincidence that Ann's dad was also Alexander? I cannot find an Alexander Dyce in the vicinity in 1841. :(
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Re: Crichton Family
« Reply #56 on: Thursday 12 January 12 23:50 GMT (UK) »
Actually, I hadn't searched Ann's parents yet, so thanks for that info, ha ha. I am telling you, I have searched every website I can think of and I cannot find an Alexander Dyce that fits the bill, it's been very frustrating... Tried to think of every reason a father would abandon his child, like death, mental illness etc... searched birth records, death records, immigration records, and nothing...
The only option I think is to figure out exactly how James is related, and then hope that it can be connected to his parents... I have many James and Alexanders in my own line but cannot find any connection....
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Re: Crichton Family
« Reply #57 on: Thursday 12 January 12 23:53 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, I meant how James is related to the Bannermans...
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Re: Crichton Family
« Reply #58 on: Friday 13 January 12 02:47 GMT (UK) »
Link to marriage record transcription for James Dyce m Ann Birnie

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http://www.genealogyworld.net/ellen/opr/Grahamstown-1560913-Item10.htm
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Re: Crichton Family
« Reply #59 on: Friday 13 January 12 13:09 GMT (UK) »
He married Ann Birnie who was living in Strichen also  in 1851. 

I have assumed that this Birnie family, also living at Entryhead, was the one Barbara referred. Alex, 55, Barbara,52, Ann,15,William 13. I have not checked to see if this is the right Ann. Maybe Barbara will be able to confirm?
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Re: Crichton Family
« Reply #60 on: Saturday 14 January 12 15:54 GMT (UK) »
Ok, well until you mentioned that Ann's father was named Alexander,  I had searched for the Birnies in Aberdeenshire, but wasn't sure which family was hers... So if you are sure that her father's name is Alexander, then yes, I am certain that that family you mentioned is the right one, they are found on both the 1841 and 1851 censuses:
Alexander 44/55
Barbara 40/52
Thomas 14/not on 1851 census
Ann 5/15
William 3/13
But you mentiond that the family was "also living at Entryhead".... where do you see that? I'm not seeing that anywhere on the censuses, all I see is that they are living in Strichen, Aberdeenshire, like Barbara said....
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Re: Crichton Family
« Reply #61 on: Saturday 14 January 12 16:51 GMT (UK) »
Can you tell me where you have viewed the censuses? I found them on freecen.
Look for Alexr Birnie.SCT1851/241Strichen  Enumeration District 5 Folio 180 page 15 Schedule 54.
Hope this helps,but as I said before, Barbara would know if this is the correct family.
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Re: Crichton Family
« Reply #62 on: Saturday 14 January 12 18:01 GMT (UK) »
Ya, I found them on freecen too, had just never looked at the address part of it, now I see where you got the "entryhead" word.... On the 1841 census the address is listed as Blackmoss.
I agree, we really need Barbara to confirm, bit busy today, but will send her a message in the next few days if she doen't come back to this board.... Don't want to bug her, but she seems to know much more than I do, and I'd love to hear what she's got....
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