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Offline Mrs.Coppertop

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Re: Look up for Herbert William Palmer please
« Reply #9 on: Friday 28 March 08 00:49 GMT (UK) »
Definately have to ask some more questions and/or get a copy marriage certificate :-\

Have no idea where he originated from, I assumed Cambs but that was only an assumption. He could be anyone of the 5 Herbert William Palmers you have kindly listed :-\ :-\

Many thanks again CaroleW ;D
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Re: Look up for Herbert William Palmer please
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 22:58 BST (UK) »
Just to let you know I ordered and have received the marriage certificate for Herbert W Palmer and Lily Fuller ;D ;D

Herbert`s father was George L Palmer. His mother was Edith ( nee Woollams ).

I`ve found George L Palmer in 1901 living in Rickmansworth with Edith and Herbert aged 1, also listed are Mary Palmer aged 37 (sister) George Woollams aged 5 and Lydia Woollams aged 10 ( step children ? ) Annie Palmer aged 6 ( niece ).

Don`t understand the step children  :-\ :-\ as Edith doesn`t appear to have been married before :-\ :-\  and I can`t find George L Palmer in 1891 :( :(

Thats all for now. Will keep you posted if I find anything.
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Re: Look up for Herbert William Palmer please
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 23:10 BST (UK) »
Hi

Per freebmd

Edith Woollams married George Palmer Dec qtr 1897   Watford 
Hertfordshire Volume: 3a  Page: 1074
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Re: Look up for Herbert William Palmer please
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 23:16 BST (UK) »
Edith is on the 1891 census with parents Henry & Mary and she is single.  They are indexed as WOODHAMS but image shows Woollams

The ref is Hertfordshire  RG12; Piece: 1121; Folio 32; Page 13

Looks like the Woollams children on the 1901 could be illegitimate

1891 census - George Palmer is in lodgings in Hertfordshire shown as b 1866

Ref is RG12; Piece: 1121; Folio 11; Page 16
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Re: Look up for Herbert William Palmer please
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 23:53 BST (UK) »
1881 for Rickmansworth

William PALMER widower  50   b Rickmansworth  Labourer     
George  14   b Rickmansworth Labourer     
Hester  13   b Rickmansworth
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Re: Look up for Herbert William Palmer please
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 01 May 08 20:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks very much for that information CaroleW ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;.

I`ve been upto the local library before reading your replies and found another Edith Woollams :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\

In 1871 Edith Woollams is listed as 12 months and living with Emma Woollams age 27 and James Woollams aged 28.
Ref No RG10, 1383, 62, 27.

I then traced Emma and James Woollams 10 years later in 1881 and found Edith ( listed as Woollam ) aged 11.
Ref No RG11, 1440, 35, 16.

After this my time ran out :( :( :( :( :( I wonder which one is the correct Edith?? :-\ :-\

Many sincere thanks again CaroleW for your help and interest. ;D ;D
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Re: Look up for Herbert William Palmer please
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 01 May 08 23:34 BST (UK) »
Hi

I think you know what I'm going to say - you need a copy of the marriage cert for George & Edith to establish her fathers name

Per freebmd

Edith Woollams married George Palmer Dec qtr 1897   Watford 
Hertfordshire Volume: 3a  Page: 1074

The only thing that's odd is that the Woollams family I found on the 1891 are not on the 1881 or 1901 census.

Before you commit to a marriage cert - I think you need to check the 1881 and 1901 for the 1891 Woollams family.  I tried under Elsie as she was only 11mths in 1891 but there is no birth for her on freebmd and no death pre-1901

I also tried under Wool** b Rick** but no luck there either
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