1851, 1861 1871 John Jervis

[gjervis]

John Jervis b c 1827 in Eccleshall appears in the 1841 cenus in Eccleshall and I belive it to be the same person in 1881 in Stoke on Trent when that John has married an Elizabeth and had a daughter Harriett in 1862 in Stafford.

I hope that someone can help with this confusion by finding him and his family in the 1851 to 1871 census return. He could be in Stafford for the 1861 census but they are in Stoke upon Trent in 1881.

Many thanks


Graham

[Ecneps]

Hi Graham

1871 RG10/2871  Folio  83  Page  1
Seabridge, Stoke on Trent, Staffs
JARVIS
John         head m 47 Ag. Laborer  Staffs Eccleshall
Elizabeth  wife  m 45                           "   Salt
James        son       9 Scholar               "   Stockton
Harriet      dau        7    "                      "   St. Thomas

Barbara

[Mum44]

Hi - found the same family as Ecneps in 1871, and this family in the 1861:

RG9 P.1908 Fol 15 Pg 23

Baswich, Stockton, Stafford

JERVIS on image, transcribed as Jarvis

John  Head  M  29  Ag Lab  B.  Staffs, Eccleshall
Elizabeth  Wife  M  41  B.  Staffs, Hopton
John  Son  7  B. Staffs Hopton
Joseph  Son  13  Ag Lab.  B, Shrops, newport
George Son  5  B. Staffs, Tixall
Thomas  Son  2  B.  Staff Baswich
Elizabeth Yates  M in Law  75  B.  Staffs, Landon

I realise John's age is a bit out, but there doesn't seem to be another B. Eccleshall except one who is a butcher and married to Ann

I suspect Joseph is Joseph Yates ?

[Ecneps]

Was just going to post that one, Elizabeth's birthplace Hopton is near to Salt and Harriet born Stockton, it ties in nicely, just wondering where young Thomas & George went

Barbara

[Mum44]

Can't find Thomas - although there are two of the right age in service but not close to home.

John is I think in service in Seabridge in 1871 - which is where the family were living then.

George could be in service in Stone: 

I'm hampered by a very scanty knowledge of Staffordshire geography.

I can't see anything possible in 1851 for the moment ?

[Mum44]

Elizabeth Yates and John Jervis on same page marriage Q1. 1854 Stafford Vol. 6b Pg. 15

[Ecneps]

Yes I thought that Joseph might point to a second marriage...

John is 39 on 1861 image though so not that far out 

[Ecneps]

There are two John Jervis in 1851 Ag. Labs aged 24 ish, one born Dilhorn and one Maer which is abt 7 miles from Eccleshall. 

Most likely is this one though:

1851 HO107/1999 fol.57 p.15
Coton Clanford, Seighford, Staffordshire
Jams Jervis head m 53 Farmer of 84 acres  Eccleshall
Mary    "      wife  m 52                              High Offley
John    "       son  s  31 Farmers son employed of Farm  Eccleshall

Barbara 

[Ecneps]

Seighford is about 4 miles from Baswich, where John was in 1861

It's also about 4 miles from Gnosall where James and Mary seem to be in 1841 although next door but one to each other:

1841 HO107/974/6 fol.36 p.12
Knightley, Gnosall, Staffs
James Jervis  45 Ag Lab 
//
next door but one:
in household of John Higgins, farmer
Mary Jervis  40 F. S. (female servant)

James & Mary both born in county

Unfortunately this doesn't help to be certain the John found by Graham belongs to this family or not - was that the one in Chapel Chorlton male servant aged 14 in household of John Benion, farmer?

Barbara