alsoPAYNE Olive East Grinstead.2b 154 1 1884 PAYNE Olive Coventry.6d 566 1 1911 PAYNE Olive G mmn. Orr Guildford.2a 113 1 1919 PAYNE Olive M Nicholds ? 1259 2 1914 PAYNE Olive Mary Coventry.6d 547 3 1908 and SKINNER Jennie Payne East Grinstead.2b 305 2 1917 THORPE Jennie Payne Brighton.2b 576 1 1918
Quote from: jamajo on Tuesday 25 March 08 21:11 GMT (UK) and one with Walter Gardner living in Rickmansworth Hertfordshire bingo you found her SueDec 1895 Gardner Walter Watford 3a 930 Meacham George Watford 3a 930 Milton Fanny Ellen Watford 3a 930 Payne Alice Watford 3a 930
and one with Walter Gardner living in Rickmansworth Hertfordshire
Alice Gardner age 32 b Lingfield Walter Gardner age 31 b Chorley Wood Herts occ brickmaker RG13, Piece 1322, Folio 31 Page 2 Sue
Oh, success!
the bits i have added are in purpleQuote from: Tephra on Tuesday 25 March 08 12:56 GMT (UK) My gran’s letters written in the 1930s to grandad (whilst courting) mention some relatives that I would love to fit into the tree. I think because of the names they are her maternal relatives, seem to fit the pattern of names but it would be interesting to see if we can fill in the details for 2 generations of the Payne family with missing census returns and spouses, children etc.The relatives that are mentioned are Uncle Maurice, = Maurice Payne Auntie Maggie, Auntie Jennie,= possibly Jennie Skinner or Jennie Thorpe ? Cousin Alice, Cousin Winnie and an Olive. - Winnie & Olive possible births given these need following up on the census There is also an Uncle Arthur. The letters are written from Warwick and Uncle Maurice worked at the Morris Car works in Coventry.Gran’s mother was Emily Payne born 1883 in Lingfield, Surrey and died 1950 in Lingfield. Her siblings were: Henry Payne born 1867, Lingfield, married Alice Steer in 1891, East Grinstead and was a bricklayer, 1871 Lingfield, with parents, 1881 Lingfield with parents Alice Payne born 1869, Lingfield, 1871 Lingfield with parents, 1881 Lingfield with parents Sue found in 1891,1901 and her death alsoMartha Payne born 1871, I was told she might have died 1893? 1871 Lingfield with parents, 1881, Lingfield with parents, 1891 Lingfield as housemaid, domestic death confirmedSpencer Payne born 1874, also Bricklayer and married Amy Jane Nash in 1896, Brighton, Sussex, 1881 Lingfield with parents, 1891 Lingfield was bricklayer labourer found in 1901 in brightonClara Payne born 1876, Lingfield, 1881 Lingfield with parents found in 1891 & marriage John Payne born 1878, Lingfield, married Florence Agnes Nash in 1899, Godstone, Surrey, 1881 Lingfield with parents, 1891 Lingfield with parents found in 1901Jane Payne born 1881, Lingfield, 1881 Lingfield with parents, 1891 Lingfield with parents found marriage to .... (can't remember) Chadwick then she dissappearsEmily (great grandmother) for which I have details Alfred Payne born 1887 Grocer and Baker, 1891 Lingfield with parents, 1901 Lingfield with parentsMaurice Payne born 1890, Lingfield, did he move to Coventry area?, 1891 Lingfield with parents, 1901 Lingfield with parents, i think we are waiting for the 1911 census for various reasonsFrank Payne born 1894, Lingfield, 1901 Lingfield with parentsParents were John 1844 to 1925 and Jane Payne, 1847 to 1930 both in Lingfield.So did any of this lot move away to Warwick and can we fill in some of the missing details for them? I have not actually confirmed any of their dates of birth, all come from census returns. Some of the other details might be a bit difficult because we don’t accessto 1911 yet but I am sure that some information can be found.When you get bored of that generation the previous generation were:Elizabeth Payne born 1836 in Lingfield, appears on 1841 census in LingfieldGeorge Payne born 1838 in Lingfield, appears on 1841, Lingfield, 1851, Lingfield, 1861 Lingfield, 1871, Lingfield, Ag Lab. found in 1881Sarah Payne born 1841 in Lingfield, appears on 1851, LingfieldEmma Payne born 1849 in Lingfield, appears on 1851, Lingfield and 1861, LingfieldJohn Payne born 1884 as above and I have details for him.Parents were:John Payne born 1807, Lingfield, died 1890 and Sarah Kesterton 1810 to 1877, Lingfield.okay i think thats what we have done so far but please remember this is Kerrys hunt not mine!
My gran’s letters written in the 1930s to grandad (whilst courting) mention some relatives that I would love to fit into the tree. I think because of the names they are her maternal relatives, seem to fit the pattern of names but it would be interesting to see if we can fill in the details for 2 generations of the Payne family with missing census returns and spouses, children etc.The relatives that are mentioned are Uncle Maurice, = Maurice Payne Auntie Maggie, Auntie Jennie,= possibly Jennie Skinner or Jennie Thorpe ? Cousin Alice, Cousin Winnie and an Olive. - Winnie & Olive possible births given these need following up on the census There is also an Uncle Arthur. The letters are written from Warwick and Uncle Maurice worked at the Morris Car works in Coventry.Gran’s mother was Emily Payne born 1883 in Lingfield, Surrey and died 1950 in Lingfield. Her siblings were: Henry Payne born 1867, Lingfield, married Alice Steer in 1891, East Grinstead and was a bricklayer, 1871 Lingfield, with parents, 1881 Lingfield with parents Alice Payne born 1869, Lingfield, 1871 Lingfield with parents, 1881 Lingfield with parents Sue found in 1891,1901 and her death alsoMartha Payne born 1871, I was told she might have died 1893? 1871 Lingfield with parents, 1881, Lingfield with parents, 1891 Lingfield as housemaid, domestic death confirmedSpencer Payne born 1874, also Bricklayer and married Amy Jane Nash in 1896, Brighton, Sussex, 1881 Lingfield with parents, 1891 Lingfield was bricklayer labourer found in 1901 in brightonClara Payne born 1876, Lingfield, 1881 Lingfield with parents found in 1891 & marriage John Payne born 1878, Lingfield, married Florence Agnes Nash in 1899, Godstone, Surrey, 1881 Lingfield with parents, 1891 Lingfield with parents found in 1901Jane Payne born 1881, Lingfield, 1881 Lingfield with parents, 1891 Lingfield with parents found marriage to .... (can't remember) Chadwick then she dissappearsEmily (great grandmother) for which I have details Alfred Payne born 1887 Grocer and Baker, 1891 Lingfield with parents, 1901 Lingfield with parentsMaurice Payne born 1890, Lingfield, did he move to Coventry area?, 1891 Lingfield with parents, 1901 Lingfield with parents, i think we are waiting for the 1911 census for various reasonsFrank Payne born 1894, Lingfield, 1901 Lingfield with parentsParents were John 1844 to 1925 and Jane Payne, 1847 to 1930 both in Lingfield.So did any of this lot move away to Warwick and can we fill in some of the missing details for them? I have not actually confirmed any of their dates of birth, all come from census returns. Some of the other details might be a bit difficult because we don’t accessto 1911 yet but I am sure that some information can be found.When you get bored of that generation the previous generation were:Elizabeth Payne born 1836 in Lingfield, appears on 1841 census in LingfieldGeorge Payne born 1838 in Lingfield, appears on 1841, Lingfield, 1851, Lingfield, 1861 Lingfield, 1871, Lingfield, Ag Lab. found in 1881Sarah Payne born 1841 in Lingfield, appears on 1851, LingfieldEmma Payne born 1849 in Lingfield, appears on 1851, Lingfield and 1861, LingfieldJohn Payne born 1884 as above and I have details for him.Parents were:John Payne born 1807, Lingfield, died 1890 and Sarah Kesterton 1810 to 1877, Lingfield.
OK I've found Elizabeth Payne b 1836 as follows:-1851, as Sue says, HO 107/1592/92/23 with the Edwards family.1858 she got married to William Reynolds - FreeBMD (Jun,1858,E.Grinstead,2b,155).1861 RG9/579/177/14.1871 RG10/1058/30/55.1881 RG11/1057/43/10.1891 RG12/788/66/11.1901 RG13/904/114/31.I hope I'm not repeating what others have found Genie
