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[kerryb]

do you have Edward & Jane Payne in the census or had they died by then?

added how about this one?

1851 HO107 1641 242 9
East GRinstead

Jane Payne 81 head widow pauper b. East GRinstead
Edward Payne son 61 brickmaker b. do.
Mary dau in law 62 glover b. do
Benjamin grandson 29 ag lab b. do.

Ooh no Toni I haven't got that one! Lets go and have a look

Kerry

[kerryb]

and in 1841
HO107 1115 1 35 9
Grinstead Common

jane Payne 70 Y
Edward  51 brickmaker Y
Benjamin 20 brickmaker Y

Sadly not the right one Edward's mother was Sarah Durrant and father William Payne.  Sarah Durrant came from Ringmer.

I have Edward on the 1841 H0107 1116 4 22

Kerry

[kerryb]

Scrap that, I've just had a look at it, its an Edward and Betsey, obviously wrong ones.  Back to the drawing board.

Kerry

[toni*]

if you know the approximate year in which you male ancestor was born but cannot locate his bapt or marriage, search such indexes for teh wedding entries of females of the same surname and generation as these can often lead you back to where he came from too as brides tended to marry in their own parish.
you can then begin to hunt for his baptisim
if you havent been lucky enough to trace a marriage then tackle his parish of residence first, if you know this. you will need to covera wide perios if you do not have an approximate eyar of birth (men can father children right up to detah so this is a false indicator) ifhe died after 1812 the burial register will invariably record his age (be the age right or wrong! )
 

[kerryb]

how about this
Edward Payne m. Jenney Chapman 14 Oct 1789 East GRinstead

Jenney & Jane were interchangeable

lots more Payne marriages in the same batch  M070561

I've seen that one before but unfortunately Edward was only born in 1780 so would have been 9 years old 

Kerry

[toni*]

oh i thought i was on a roll!

well i was but rolling in the wrong direction!
 

[kerryb]

There's always the possibility they were dead before 1841 

[toni*]

Scrap that, I've just had a look at it, its an Edward and Betsey, obviously wrong ones.  Back to the drawing board.

Kerry

is that where your tree ends  / begins ?

There's always the possibility they were dead before 1841

yes i did think they might have been have you found them in the burial index from 1812 onwards?
mind you not uncommon names were they

maybe you should go to teast grinstead / lingfield church and wander round the yard to see if you can find any Paynes - maybe on the North side!

[Gadget]

Hi Kerry

Not sure what they were then but headstones were few and far between for ag labs 

Parish record burials would be the best bet, if you can get hold of them.

Whats the NBI like for that area?

Gadget