Help needed finding information on UNDERWOOD family

[deeiluka]

OK folks....posting the summary ...which is just a list really of what we have found with the odd comment....in parts.

Please pick me up on any omissions, mistakes, dyslexic errors......     

Part 1

What Omega knows about the UNDERWOODS …….

On  31/7/1901  in Cunnamulla  Robert James Charles Underwood married Bridelia (Bredelia) Madden (born 4/7/1880 Avadale Qld) 
On the marriage cert Robert JC Underwood is 32 and his birthplace is Bendigo Victoria.  This puts his birth year at about 1869.
His parents are Robert Underwood and Elizabeth MacBroom and fathers occupation is listed as Farmer.

Robert JC Underwood died in Roma 14th January 1916. Robert James Charles Underwood and a child Bridelia Underwood are buried at Roma Cemetery and according to the Roma Historical Society they are the only two in that grave.

Bridelia (MADDEN) UNDERWOOD died 07 Jul 1968 in Brighton, Queensland, Australia.

Robert James Charles Underwood has parents unknown on his inquest papers.

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Part 2

What we’ve found……..
No UNDERWOODS what so ever with BDM registrations in Bendigo or Sandhurst.
Very few BROOM/McBROOM records in Oz.

But….lots of UNDERDOWN records for Bendigo and Sandhurst.

From BISA….which can have inaccuracies…….it seems lots of the UNDERDOWNS who were in Bendigo at the time of the Goldrush years actually arrived in South Australia……went over for the Goldrush years……a few stayed but most returned to South Australia or went on to other states to mining areas.

UNDERDOWN Robert
Parents = Thos and Ann nee HARDING
Baptised 10th August 1823 Southleigh Devon England
died 13th August 1886 Bendigo Victoria Robert NUDERDOWN aged 62 died at SANDHURST in 1886
Father = Thomas Underdown and Mother = Anne UNKNOWN
Ref = 10879arrived departed Victoria
occupation = Ship's Cook, Goldminer, Farmer
residence = Adelaide
religion = C of E, Meth
married October 1852 in Adelaide SA to Elizabeth Ann nee McBROOM
parents = James and Elizabeth
born c1830 ARM Ireland
died 22nd August 1916 Brighton Victoria Elzth Ann UNDERDOWN died aged 91 at Brighton in 1916 reg no 8884
Father Mcbroom Jas
Mother Elzth Ann UNKNOWNarrived 1851 ASCENDANT
children = Hannah Elizabeth STRIBLEY, PITTERSON (1853-1918),
Robert James (1855-),
Thomas David (1857-),
Joshua George,
Mary Elizabeth Ann (1861-),
Sarah Jane (1863
Robert James Charles (1865-),
William Joshua George (1867-),
Henry Emanuel (1874-) 


From Elizabeth (McBROOM) UNDERDOWN’S death certificate in 1916…..

Elizabeth was born in Amagh, Ireland and married in California, AMERICA at the age of 24 to Robert UNDERDOWN.
63 years in State of Victoria.

Children                       Ages in 1916
Hannah Elizabeth        62 years
Robert James Charles Washington    Deceased
Thomas David               Deceased
May Elizabeth Ann        55 years
Joshua George             Deceased
Sarah Jane                   53 years
Robert James Charles Alexander  53 years
William Joshua George   45 years
Henry Emanual              40 years

The 'first marriage'.....from Message #123 

HEARD William  28 years  Status S  Father's name unrecorded
MCBROOM Elizth 21 years  Bride's father name unrecorded
29 Aug 1852
at  Holy Trinity Church Adelaide
Ref  Ade 5/236

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Part 3.

There'll be lots of other snippets of information available for this section once we're happy that this is indeed the family.......

children =
1. Hannah Elizabeth STRIBLEY, PITTERSON (1853-1918),

Added....Her birth in South Australia?
Ann Eliza HEARD born 20 Aug 1853 at Port Adelaide
Father = William HEARD & Mother = Elizabeth MCBROOM
ref = Ade 4/209

at Karrakatta Cemetery
PITTERSON  HANNAH ELIZA  aged 63 years  1918 from  UNKNOWN 

PITTERSEN
Harold Bendik PITTERSEN  BORN 1895 AT BRIGHTON reg no 1269
father  Bendik Pittersen mother  Hannah Eliza UNDERDOWN

Peter Stanley PITTERSEN born 1893 NewP reg no 6256
father Bendek Pittersen mother  Hannah UNDERWOOD

****NOTE THE NAME CHANGE!

Marriage in Victoria
William Charles STRIBLEY born Sandhurst married Hannah Eliza HERD born Adelaide
1884 reg no 2007

**Note the name Hird….so Elizabeth was not a single woman when she “married” Robert UNDERDOWN. Did William die…desert her? Did they actually marry?

And children born there……
William Charles born 1885 at Sandhurst reg no 5813
Father William Charles Stribley
Mother:  Hannah Eliza NUDERDOUN

Norman born 1887 reg no 31855 at Sandhurst
Father  William Charles Stribely
Mother  Hannah Eliza UNDERDOWN

2. Robert James (1855-),
Probably died in infacncy. Was his death registered?

3. Thomas David (1857-),
Death
14131      1885     
UNDERDOWN      Thomas D     
Father ROBERT       Mother ELIZABETH A     
District  QUEANBEYAN

4. Joshua George,
died aged 22 months in 1861 in Victoria.
Ref = 3282

ErrorSPAM REPORT THIS POST AS SPAM (Use 'Report to Moderator'). DO NOT CLICK ON ANY LINKS IN THIS POST. DO NOT REPLY TO THIS PERSON.]5. Mary Elizabeth Ann (1861-), [/color]
Mary Elizabeth A  JENKINS aged 82 at Carnegie in 1944 reg no 4030
Father Robert  Underdown
Mother Elizth  MCBROOM

ErrorSPAM REPORT THIS POST AS SPAM (Use 'Report to Moderator'). DO NOT CLICK ON ANY LINKS IN THIS POST. DO NOT REPLY TO THIS PERSON.]Added from message #134 .....Is this her birth?[/color]

Elizabeth Ann UNDERDOWN born Inglewood 1861
Father-Robert   Mother-Elizabeth Ann Brown 
Reg no 17652

6.Sarah Jane (1863-,
SCOTT  Sarah Jane
Father Underdown Robt  Mother Elizth Ann  MCBROWN
Death Place EWICK  83 years  1947  Reg# 2664

7. Robert James Charles (1865-),

8. William Joshua George (1867-),
marriage in EMU CK in 1896 to an Eliza McKinnon.
Ref = 1797

Added...Message #127

burial at Karrata.
UNDERDOWN  WILLIAM JOSHUA aged  60 years  1929

Henry Emanuel (1874-) 
looks like Henry went to WA …..Henry Emanuel Charles  UNDERDOWN born in 1905 to  Henry UNDERDOWN and  Alice Ada  BYFIELD  at MAHOGANY 
Ref = 6886

buried at Karrata
UNDERDOWN  HENRY EMANUEL aged  59 years  in 1936 from MUNDARING 

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Part 4
(and final part)

Now who is this….from WA Indexes
Eliza UNDERDOWN  aged 38 father ROBERT mother UNKNOWN Elizabeth born BENDGO VIC  died 1898
No registration district given
Ref = 2756

Back to info from BISA....
Robert Underdown who married Elizabeth McBroom came from Southleigh, Devon, parents Thomas and Ann nee Harding.

He had a brother Thomas Underdown baptised 1821 Southleigh Devon, parents Thomas and Ann nee Harding

[deeiluka]

    

I'm printing that out to have alongside me....   

.....dee

[sparrett]

Hi All,
Regarding Hannah Eliza[beth] , the daughter who married Pitterson.
There is information on her contained in the war records of her sons on NAA.
Now, I must tell you that name-changing and creating confusion seems to run in the family.

Just put PITTERSEN in search on NAA and read the records for NORMAN,STANLEY and don't overlook HARRY SCOTT [who is using a false name when he enlists]

The STRIBLEY's are all tied in there too.

There are sections in the documents when it seems 'unknown ' whether HANNAH is dead or alive and half brothers are unsure of their relationships and BENDIK PITTERSEN [sometimes BENJAMIN] is both dead and alive.

Although it is not directly about UNDERDOWN, it may shed some light with addresses and birth places if you can unravel it
Sue

[cando]

The 'first marriage'.  Forgive me if it has already been posted.

HEARD William  28 years  Status S  Father's name unrecorded
MCBROOM Elizth 21 years  Bride's father name unrecorded
29 Aug 1852
at  Holy Trinity Church Adelaide
Ref  Ade 5/236

cando

[deeiluka]

The marriage was mentioned but thanks Cando....I have now added it to the summary.

Sue....that's very interesting....especially the bit about name changing. It all adds credence, doesn't it?

.....dee

[tropicalj]

Deidre.............Can  I  ask  what  did  Robert Underwood  die  of seeing  there was an  inquest please?


Sue, I  was also  reading   the  NAA records allways so  usefull,  I  see that  the  Stribely  boys  took  on  Pittersen's name but  not really .   Norman  was  killed  in  France.

going  to  check  the  directories see  when  they all arrived  in WA.

OH Dee excellent summary. 

the  only  one  we  still  have  to  find  is  William Joshua Underdown  is  that correct?

Jenn