Reuben Turvey born Pershore cir 1828

[Mary R]

Can any one help me find details of Reuben Turvey's birth cir 1828 in Pershore and also of his brother George cir 1820.
The details I have about Reuben are that he married Eliza Forest/Forrester in Besford Chapel on 17/09/1848.  The wedding certificate states that Reuben was 20 years old and a postman.  His father was John Turvey.  Unfortunately there are several John Turveys born about 1800 in Pershore and I have no way of knowing which one was Reuben's father until I find details of his baptism.  I have searched Pershore Holy Cross, St. Andrews, Besford and Pinvin church records but have had no joy.
I haven't found Reuben in the 1841 census but in the 1851 census he is living in the Holy Cross district of Pershore.  The census entry reads-
Reuben Turvey  age 23         Postman                                 born Pershore
Eliza Turvey       age 20                                                        born Besford
George Turvey brother age 30 Private in the 17th Lancers born Pershore
Mary Turvey age 28 step-sister  Soldiers wife born Oxfordshire Eustand?
Mary Ann Turvey dau aged 5 months                                   born Pershore
I suspect step-sister should be sister-in-law!
Reuben and Eliza must have moved around between the 1851 census and the 1861 census because the 1861 census finds them back in Pershore with 2 more children John aged 9 and Alice age 7, both born in Hemmel Hempstead.  Reuben's age is given as 32 and he is now working as a agricultural labourer.
By the 1871 census Reuben and Eliza have moved to Evesham where they live until "death us do part"
My questions are
1. Can anyone find details of Reuben and George Turvey's baptism?
2. What did a postman do in 1851?
3.  What are the 17th Lancers and where were they based?
4.  Are there any non conformist Churches in Pershore that Reuben and George might have been baptised in?
5.  Where were Reuben and George in the 1841 census?
6.  Any bright ideas on how I can identify the correct John Turvey who is their father?
I live 2 hours drive away from Worcester family record office ( but isn't it great) and so would really appreciate any help anyone can give me with this.
Thanks.  Mary

[wozzle]

if you google "17th lancers"
then click on QRL-history of the 17th lancers
you will find out all you need to know about them
also if george was in the 17th lancers during the 1841 census he could have been in ireland.

[Mary R]

Thanks Wozzle.  I've  just done that and  found it very useful.  One question answered , five to go.  Here's hoping some roots- chatters can help with those five.
Thanks again,
Mary

[jim1212]

Hi,

Try this link for old occupations,

http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/index.html

[Mary R]

Thanks Jim,
What a useful site.  I've bookmarked it for future reference.  It has a postboy on it which I guess is the same as a post man. 
2 questions answered, 4 to go.  What a great lot of people roots chatters are.
Thanks again,
Mary

[jim1212]

Hi Mary,

You could try this link for Non conformist church's.

http://worcestershire.whub.org.uk/home/cs-records-holdings-catholics.pdf


Jim

[Thrums]

Just came from the library after looking for Reuben Turvey as they have a free connection there, just did a search for 17th lancers and up you came!
any way:- John Turvey and Ann Lacy were married 24 May 1807 at St Peters Worcester ( seems to have been a bolt hole for marriages for the Turvey family when things are rough going ).
George son of John & Ann was Bap. 7 sep.1807 St Andrews Pershore
There's a George & Mary Davis married 30 Sep. 1840 St Albans Worcester, whether this is the same one I'm not sure.
So Reuben's father John may have been a soldier, or lived in one of the villages on the Evesham side as they tended to use St Andrews more the the Abbey, Holy Cross.
There was a John in 1881 who was a Chelsea Pensioner living in the hospital there but he was born 1836, too late to be the father.
Hope you find something I've been looking for hin for the last 10 years as well
Mike Turvey

[Mary R]

Thanks for looking for me.  I have spent the day researching the following entry in the 1841 census in Pershore Holy Cross.
John Turvey  55  sieve maker
Margaret Turvey 50
John Turvey 17
Agnes Turvey 15
Barnard Turvey 12
I wondered if Barnard was our Reuben. (Desperation setting in here!) and decided to eliminate him by following Bernard through the census's to prove he wasn't Reuben.  ( If that makes sense).  I couldn't find Barnard again in the census or his death.   I couldn't find Agnes again or her marriage.  This supports my case that it may be wrong names on the 1841 census.  I couldn't find Bernard or Agnes's christening in the notes I made from Holy Cross church baptisms but they may have been baptised in St Andrews.
I did find John Turvey junior again born cir 1824. in the 1851 census.  Interestingly, despite being married he is back home with his father John Turvey in the 1851 census and John Turvey senior gives his profession as Postman!
John Turvey junior is found in the 1851 census on ancestry under John Surrey. in the 1891 census under John Turney and in the 1901 census under John Surrey.
No wonder we are struggling. 
I'm trying to find a link between this family and Reuben's family to try and see if the John senior is the father of Reuben.
Hope this hasn't confused you further!
Mary

[Mary R]

Thanks Jim for giving me details of non conformist churches.  Next time I'm in Worcester family history centre I'll see if they have records of baptisms for those churches.
3 questions answered 3 to go.  Trouble is those 3 are the difficult ones. 
Does anyone think Reuben Turvey might have been a Jew?  It's just that Reuben is an unusual name.
Thanks everyone for your help,
Mary