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Re: Taylor or Smith
« Reply #36 on: Monday 24 November 08 14:04 GMT (UK) »
are you sure sarah taylor was a blackwell before marriage to jermiah?i have good reason to believe she wasnt!!!!!?i would be interested to see any profs yopu have. i suspect she was a fisher
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Re: Taylor or Smith
« Reply #37 on: Monday 24 November 08 19:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cath

I originally was given Sarah's maiden name as Blackwell by Lena Taylor a direct descendant of Plato Taylor 1824 and then again by Elizabeth Thomas, grand daughter of Plato Taylor 1880 grandson of Plato 1824.  However, I am now aware of two schools of thought ... Blackwell or Fisher??

The 1861 census shows Sarah as having been born Chalk Hill Bushey Herts and I am aware a Fisher/Taylor marriage took part at Bushey with the correct names so I am now more inclined to this being correct.  I am still in touch with te others and will try to get further infomation as to why they believe Blackwell to be correct??   Watch this space....
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Re: Taylor or Smith
« Reply #38 on: Monday 24 November 08 19:32 GMT (UK) »
i will with interest.thanks cathayb
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Re: Taylor or Smith
« Reply #39 on: Monday 24 November 08 20:55 GMT (UK) »
Hello every one,
Just a quickie, I have Family tree maker and any info I have I am putting the details on a tree.
When I was putting Jeremiah, Sarah and their children on I came to Thomas who I thought belonged to Sarah as he died with her in the Hartlake disaster aged 18ys,??
But that would make his birth c 1835.
As I put him on a warning came up and told me his father had died ? do I want to put another father on???
Jeremiah aledgingly died on Wimbledon Common in a fight in 1831 SO who did THOMAS belong to???????
Come on Cathay is that the mystery??
LOL
Carol
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Re: Taylor or Smith
« Reply #40 on: Monday 24 November 08 21:08 GMT (UK) »
THAT THOMAS WAS HER GRAND SON!!!!
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Re: Taylor or Smith
« Reply #41 on: Monday 24 November 08 21:22 GMT (UK) »
I must have been getting tired Thomas her son was 38 yrs her grandson 4. Sorry.
 But what I did read is the memorial service details of the disaster on Romany Road.co.uk was that Sarah's G G Grandaughers Alice Ransome had written the account and was read by her sister Annie Brazil.
Then it stated that THEIR grandparents SAMUEL COOPER AND ANNIE SHEPHERD chose to marry in St Mary's in 1898 to commarate the disaster.
BUT I could not find a marriage record for the year stated not under those names.
Am I getting warm
Carol x
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Re: Taylor or Smith
« Reply #42 on: Monday 24 November 08 23:16 GMT (UK) »
you are my dear you are.i wonder if the brazils are going to come into this?

i feel a bit mean but its good for you to pursue the chase cause you might well come up with something i havent seen.but i will keep pointing you in the right direction.
 
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Re: Taylor or Smith
« Reply #43 on: Tuesday 25 November 08 05:48 GMT (UK) »
HI Cathay
I am like a dog with a bone and I dont let go until I have won!
This has kept me awake for several nights now with several theories.
Hasten  the time of this flipping e mail.
And the stupid thing is it isnt even my direct rellie.
Dave whose grt grandfather Daniel Cooper  is has just joined this site and wetpaint.
So I hope hes watching this!
I know I am going off the subject but to top it all I went to bed last night early, when my son comes in to tell me there was a strange 3 legged dog at our door wet, bedraggled and starving. The cat shot one way the dog ignored it eat all her food.
Came in went to jump on my bed and I stopped her and she promplty layed down on the floor and went to sleep.! I put an old blanket down.
I will have to check the local vets tomorrow, she has had her front leg amputated. Shes a young dog about 2 yrs old.
I suspect shes been roaming for a few days.
All the waifs and strays seem to end up on my doorstep.
They seem to know.
Shes laid beside me now leaned up aginst my leg.
I am also going to give her a shower later.
Any way back to the subject!
I am  going to have another look at this while I am awake and Ill get back to you
I found a birth record for a Alfred James Taylor  in Kensington in the Sept  qtr 1874, if Jacqui hsnt got her grandfathers cert  already I might get That one myself.
Ill have another delve.
Night or morning.
Carol
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Green in Croydon and Peckham Camberwell
Reed in Peckham could originate in Ireland
Hunt Bushey Herts walworth Peckham  Croydon, Mitcham Gypsy based
Jessop in and around Kent
Taylors Croydon originate from Nottinghill and Acton
Gardner Mitcham

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Re: Taylor or Smith
« Reply #44 on: Tuesday 25 November 08 07:34 GMT (UK) »
Carol, search http://freebmd.rootsweb.com for marriages of a Samuel COOPER in volume 2a (covers Kent) and within the results, click on the reference number of the Samuel COOPER married Tunbridge 1898 - that will give you two possible spouses ;)

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