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Re: "MISSING" Cornelius George Lawrence.....UPDATED and none the wiser
« Reply #45 on: Friday 10 March 06 09:57 GMT (UK) »
Morning Caz, Whoopsydoo does this confuse you or what!!!! 

What place of residence was given on the marriage certificate?

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Re: "MISSING" Cornelius George Lawrence.....UPDATED and none the wiser
« Reply #46 on: Friday 10 March 06 10:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi ya Tiffy, i should have known that this Lawrence family would be trouble from the details on the 1851/61 census !!!!

Cornelius George Lawrence was living at Greens Cottage, Tewkesbury Rd, Cheltenham.

Eliza Pearce (Nee Price) was living at 33 Queen Street, Cheltenham.

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DEVON : Gillard,Horn,Powlesland,Cooper,Crocker,Mallett,Branch
GLOUCESTERSHIRE : Hanks,Pratt,Bowen,Hall,Compton,Lawrence,Morris,Williams, Izard,Dancey,Derrett
WORCESTERSHIRE : James, Wheatcroft

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Re: "MISSING" Cornelius George Lawrence.....UPDATED and none the wiser
« Reply #47 on: Friday 10 March 06 10:15 GMT (UK) »
Me again Caz, so Eliza Pearce was we presume on her second marriage with Cornelius.  What ages are given for each on the certificate>

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Re: "MISSING" Cornelius George Lawrence.....UPDATED and none the wiser
« Reply #48 on: Friday 10 March 06 10:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi ya,

 Eliza Price was born 1856, Tirley, Glos. She Married a George Pearce...dont know when. On the Marraige cert to Cornelius, Eliza Pearce'  age is 45 and she's down as Widow.
Cornelius is down as Widower and his age is 52.

CAZ
DEVON : Gillard,Horn,Powlesland,Cooper,Crocker,Mallett,Branch
GLOUCESTERSHIRE : Hanks,Pratt,Bowen,Hall,Compton,Lawrence,Morris,Williams, Izard,Dancey,Derrett
WORCESTERSHIRE : James, Wheatcroft


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Re: "MISSING" Cornelius George Lawrence.....UPDATED and none the wiser
« Reply #49 on: Friday 10 March 06 11:18 GMT (UK) »
Blimey!

He didn't hang around after Sarah Ann died then, did he?  ::) ;D

I don't know if this helps you at all, but I did a little timeline in order to get my head around it all!

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1829 Matilda LAWRENCE born

1832 Charlotte LAWRENCE = Charles DERRETT

1847 Cornelius b  Ch K, s/o Matilda LAWRENCE and ?, informant Charlotte DERRETT (nee LAWRENCE)

1851 Cornelius DERRETT with Charlotte, 41, her daus Matilda etc

1861 Cornelius with Matilda DERRETT unmarr head "grandson" - but Charlotte is absent

1864 Clara Matilda HERBERT born 13 White Hart St, d/o William HERBERT & Ann HERBERT formerly DERRETT

1869 Cornelius = Sarah Ann COMPTON, s/o William LAURENCE

1871 census married to Sarah Ann

1881 census married to Sarah Ann

1891 census married to Sarah Ann

1899 death of Sarah Ann

1899 marries Eliza PEARCE, s/o George LAWRENCE, miller

1901 census (have we got this??)

1903 Clara HERBERT death

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Have you looked for William and/ or George LAWRENCE on earlier censuses?  It could be that he did exist in the background somewhere?  Did we ever discover what happened to Matilda?  If you have a spare day or so (!) you could try the full marriage/ death indexes which are currently free to view.

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: "MISSING" Cornelius George Lawrence.....UPDATED and none the wiser
« Reply #50 on: Friday 10 March 06 11:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi Arranroots

i have the 1901 census info, Cornelius & Eliza are living at 15 Cleveland St, Cheltenham with 3 of Eliza children from her previous marraige.
I have'nt tried looking for a William/George Lawrence, not having a birth year for them etc.
As for Matilda, cant find her after the 1861 census, cant seem to be able to find a marraige for her either.

CAZ
DEVON : Gillard,Horn,Powlesland,Cooper,Crocker,Mallett,Branch
GLOUCESTERSHIRE : Hanks,Pratt,Bowen,Hall,Compton,Lawrence,Morris,Williams, Izard,Dancey,Derrett
WORCESTERSHIRE : James, Wheatcroft

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Re: "MISSING" Cornelius George Lawrence.....UPDATED and none the wiser
« Reply #51 on: Friday 10 March 06 11:51 GMT (UK) »
There is a George LAWRENCE ag lab in Charlton Kings in 1851.  By then he is 25 and married to Emma.

No Thomas - but if the daddy was a Thomas he might have run off by then!!

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: "MISSING" Cornelius George Lawrence.....UPDATED and none the wiser
« Reply #52 on: Friday 10 March 06 11:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi Arranroots

The George Lawrence on the 1851 census is mine, he married Emma Mustoe, they're my G G G Grandparents, so its not him.

Before i get confused even more.....whose Thomas or do you mean William..

CAZ
DEVON : Gillard,Horn,Powlesland,Cooper,Crocker,Mallett,Branch
GLOUCESTERSHIRE : Hanks,Pratt,Bowen,Hall,Compton,Lawrence,Morris,Williams, Izard,Dancey,Derrett
WORCESTERSHIRE : James, Wheatcroft

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Re: "MISSING" Cornelius George Lawrence.....UPDATED and none the wiser
« Reply #53 on: Friday 10 March 06 12:42 GMT (UK) »
LOL I probably do, don't I??

I will resign again at this point...

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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)