Author Topic: Matthew Bell/ Salkeld/Woolsington Hall  (Read 35315 times)

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Re: Matthew Bell/ Salkeld/Woolsington Hall
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 09 March 11 23:16 GMT (UK) »
Lets see if these photos of Woolsington  Hall works!

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Re: Matthew Bell/ Salkeld/Woolsington Hall
« Reply #37 on: Wednesday 09 March 11 23:18 GMT (UK) »
And Woolsington Hall today..

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Re: Matthew Bell/ Salkeld/Woolsington Hall
« Reply #38 on: Thursday 10 March 11 00:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi Linda,
Thanks so much for the private email, I will get back to you very soon.

I have seen one of these Woolsington pictures, via an internet search but the others are new to me.  Wow...so very nice and great to see that date of 1828, as this would have been the same time that Matthew Bell Esq., MP would have lived there!

Looking forward to our sharing of Bell information.
Bellfalcon

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Re: Matthew Bell/ Salkeld/Woolsington Hall
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 03 May 11 18:38 BST (UK) »
Im brand new to this site and hoping this is where to ask. What are the coat of arms of the Bells of Woolsington? On ancestry.com one person has TWO Coats of arms shown. The second is listed as both a crest and a coat of arms and is Sable fess ermine between three silver bells. IS this their arms? Its also the arms of Sir Robert Bell d. 1577 in Beupore England, Speaker of the House of Commons who no one knows who he descends from.
Thank you in advance!


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jwinon : Matthew Bell/Woolsington Hall
« Reply #40 on: Monday 09 May 11 14:39 BST (UK) »
Jwinon you state you have traced the bells for 23 generations back to Edward III. Do you have that written somewhere I can see, or can you email them to me? Im VERY intersted Thank you in advance!
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Re: Matthew Bell/ Salkeld/Woolsington Hall
« Reply #41 on: Monday 27 June 11 22:54 BST (UK) »
I would very much like to receive the genealogy you have on the Bell line.  I am stuck on my Bell line.  The last ancestor that I am postive about is William Bell born 12-25-1759 Hunting Creek, Rowan, North Carolina.  He married Sarah McGuire born 05-11-1768 of Hunting Creek, Rowan, North Carolina.  Willaims father was Robert Bell.  There is some debate, apparently, as to who his mother was.  I believe his mother was Jane Bean, daughter of William Bean.  I get stuck at Robert.  I have found three differnt sets of parents for this Robert.  I don't necessarily think that the information on Familysearch.org is correct because it doesn't match up with "family tradition".  Family tradition states that we come from John Austin of Scotland who was knighted Sir Bell because of his work with metal and tullip-shaped bells.  After he was knighted the family took on the name of Bell, moved to Ireland and then to America.  I believe this line come through John Bell of Londonderry, Ireland.  The line on Familysearch.org keeps the name of Bell longer than they should have if family tradition is right.  There are plenty of old obituaries on-line for Governors and the like that also talk of this name change.  Many of them site McDougall's History of Scotland for the information, but I can't find that book either.  Long story short...I would be interested to see if you have any information that could help me sort this out.

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Re: Matthew Bell/ Salkeld/Woolsington Hall
« Reply #42 on: Monday 27 June 11 22:58 BST (UK) »
I would very much like to receive the genealogy you have on the Bell line.  I am stuck on my Bell line.  The last ancestor that I am postive about is William Bell born 12-25-1759 Hunting Creek, Rowan, North Carolina.  He married Sarah McGuire born 05-11-1768 of Hunting Creek, Rowan, North Carolina.  Willaims father was Robert Bell.  There is some debate, apparently, as to who his mother was.  I believe his mother was Jane Bean, daughter of William Bean.  I get stuck at Robert.  I have found three differnt sets of parents for this Robert.  I don't necessarily think that the information on Familysearch.org is correct because it doesn't match up with "family tradition".  Family tradition states that we come from John Austin of Scotland who was knighted Sir Bell because of his work with metal and tullip-shaped bells.  After he was knighted the family took on the name of Bell, moved to Ireland and then to America.  I believe this line come through John Bell of Londonderry, Ireland.  The line on Familysearch.org keeps the name of Bell longer than they should have if family tradition is right.  There are plenty of old obituaries on-line for Governors and the like that also talk of this name change.  Many of them site McDougall's History of Scotland for the information, but I can't find that book either.  Long story short...I would be interested to see if you have any information that could help me sort this out.

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Re: Matthew Bell/ Salkeld/Woolsington Hall
« Reply #43 on: Tuesday 28 June 11 16:59 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately I dont have any imformation on those bells. BUT...if your family tradition is correct the idea that they are descended thru John Bell of Londerry is unlikely. John Bell is the brother of Matthew Bell who can be traced to Kirconnel, Scotland as a Bell. These bells traveled to Ireland waiting for land grants to open in America. The Bell DNA project then links this Matthew Bell with Sir Robert Bell Eschecuer under Queen Elizabeth. This Sir Robert can be traced to a common ancestor with Matthew Bell (brother of John) at most four generations earlier around 1425. So unless John Austin of Scotland was born even earlier than this its unlikely they are related. Further Sir Roberts Coat of Arms is Church bells not tulip shaped bells so again unlikely.

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Re: Matthew Bell/ Salkeld/Woolsington Hall
« Reply #44 on: Tuesday 28 June 11 20:34 BST (UK) »
Church bells are considered to be tulip-shaped.