TREASE/TRAIES continued...

[kerryb]

Hi Deb

Haha I think about the Traies family from time to time, usually in terms where the ***** were you James?!

I've been working through the various surnames I have in London and coming up with some interesting stuff.  Now it is the turn of the Traies family.

Kerry

[deb usa]

I have to go out for half an hour but will be back ... Can you summarize James T, his details ...I just can't fathom reading through part 1 and 39 pages of this thread LOL 

[gardenerbob]

Hi,

Always in awe of 'deb' and 'kerry' research, and will keep in touch. Currently updating website for Aussie reunion in about a year's time.

Bob.

[deb usa]

Hi Bob

Found my way back to your Traies site ..You have added a lot since I was last there especially to James T b 1785 Devon. 

I have been going mad again trying to find James' baptism ie: James T b 1816, Stratford le Bow.

I'm wondering if James snr. married Hannah in Devon?

Nice to see you again!!!!!

deb

[kerryb]

Hi Bob

Please don't tell me there are Traies in Aussie!!!!!!

Deb I've often wondered if James snr married Hannah in Devon, although the first children Jane and Samuel and Anne were all born and baptised in London and Jane died in London a year after her birth.  But at least with the rent records we can pin him down to Mile End in 1816.

Kerry

[gardenerbob]

Dear Kerry,

I can reassure you that the Trease website does not indicate that any of the Traies family ended up in Aus. However Samuel Traies who married in Crediton in 1654, appears to have had several brothers who descendants eventually decided to spell their name "Trease" and in the 1860s three of these descendants set off for Melbourne and there now seem to be thousands of Treases out in Aus but no Traies ... so far.

Regards,

Bob

[oldmanriver]

Hi Kerry, Bob, Debs and anyone else out there still interested in the TRAIES family.

I thought I would share a piece of information which I don't think has been mentioned before. 

Sometime ago the Criminal Indexes were put on-line, but it was only recently that I did a search on them.    I did a simple search just putting in the surname TRAIES.  One of the results that came up was the name Emma TRAIES.  However, Emma was not the criminal but the victim! 

Charles TRAIES and Emma Jane GARDINER (who I think are on the same tree as Kerry) had married in 1851.  They had a daughter, Emma Jane TRAIES born in 1859.  It is this Emma Jane TRAIES who is on the Criminal Register as just Emma TRAIES.  Bob has her listed on his records as marrying William GARDNER in 1880.  It seems this was not true!!  A warrant for the arrest of William GARDNER had been isssued on September 8 1882. 

William GARDNER age 38, Cabdriver, was brought before J BRIDGE esq. at Southwark Police Court.  He was charged with marrying Emma TRAIES, his wife being then alive.  He was brought  before the Recorder and pleaded guilty of Bigamy.  He was sent to Wandsworth Prison for 6 Calendar Months.

Ages since I've had anything to write about the TRAIES family.  Hope you are all OK.

Bernice

[gardenerbob]

Hi Bernice,

Nice to hear from you again. That is the first bigamy I've been able to log on the website. Amazes me that he thought he could get away with it. Good to know that research is still turning up information.

I have done nothing further on Traies research for over a year but just over a week ago Sam contacted me with another piece to clip into the Traies jigsaw puzzle. She has found what appears to be the burial of James's wife Ann nee Sutton : -

burial 06Jan1830 St George, Hanover Square. Ann TRAYES of St. Marylebone. age 39 (FindMyPast image)

I will update the Traies section of the website with these two pieces of information shortly. I am still busy on the website. I have started adding data on all Trease/Trayes/Traies/Treays and other spelling variants by location. I have made a start with Cornwall with a parish index but it is a long and somewhat tedious job.

Bob

[Roger Dodge]

Trying to trace a Mary Elizabeth Treais (yes, spelt this way) of St Dominick, Cornwall born around 1874 according to the 1911 census, but can't find her in the 1881 census. I believe the family worked on the estate of Cotehele. Anybody find her?