TREASE/TRAIES continued...

[gardenerbob]

Hi Deb,

Can't find any person from existing records we have who matches William Trays, the prisoner, and have had no joy in tracking him on BMD or census records. The only Trays family who could remotely fit is that of James, the son of Edward, the brother of William TREAYS the cordwainer of Caroline Place whose son Henry marrried Sarah Grimmett.  Edward married Jane/ Joan Gwinnett (Grimmett?) and his son James born in Somerset went to live in Lambeth and married Margaret ? They had a son James recorded age 3 in the 1851 census and may have had further children. I can see the family name TRAYES and born or living in Lambeth in later census returns but this has not been researched  further.  However this  family is Lambeth based and William states he is born St Lukes so looks unlikely to be one of their offspring. All I have on that family at present is :-
http://www.trease.org.uk/trt/trt17w_gg.htm#18e_jg

Re the William TRAIS, annuitant of Guernsey, again no knowledge of him. My hunch is that he may be related to the two TRAIS persons who drew up these wills:-
http://www.trease.org.uk/traies/txr/trais_wills.htm
They are "into" annuities and there is a Guernsey connection - Charles Grimes (who discovered the Yarra river and married Mary Trais's daughter) was based there.

I will see if I can discover more about the above,

Regards,

Bob

[gennytreays]

Hi, my name is Genny Treays and I have come across your blog. I was researching my Uncle John in University - I'm studying town planning which he was a division of in Plymouth, Devon, where some family still live. Obviously this is close to cornwall and all these other towns ending in -comb which I remember from my childhood family visits, which have also been mentioned in your previous blogs.
I can't help but wonder if I might be able to help as Treays is not a very common name and I keep seeing names within your posts that seem to have been recycled through generations in my family: Samuel, Martin, Jane, John.. and through researching the name Treays I have come across what appear to be relatives from the 1800s with my surname, in a place called StGennys... which I can't help but wonder whether there is any connection. I would love to hear back from any of you to see what you think and I can easily help with my family tree going back to before the 1900s where you appear to have arrived from your research dating back to what looks like the 1700s.

Regards, Genny.

[gardenerbob]

Dear Genny,

There was a Samuel Treays born in St Gennys who may be related to you. There is a bit about him on this link.
http://www.trease.org.uk/trf/trf17s_ms.htm

We've never traced all his children - between Peter Treays born 1793 and Ann Treays born 1807 only one child Betty born 1797 has been found. My ancestor John was brother to Samuel Treays from St Gennys.

Even if you are not a descendant of Samuel there are several other of the St. Gennys family who have never been traced on this family tree. Be great to hear from you what information you have and to work with you to see where it fits.

Regards,

Bob

[gennytreays]

So is everyone posting here part of the Treays/Trease/Traies family? What or who is everyone trying to find or trace back, or even forward, to?
I had a look at that link gardenerbob but I'd need to spend some time speaking to my grandma to find out about my grandad's parents and grandparents who some of those people may well be. It's just difficult because she lives in Devon whereas I'm in Scotland.

[kerryb]

Hi Genny

Welcome to the Treays/Traies etc etc hunt

I have Traies in my family line, in the Kensington and Hackney areas of London in the mid 18th century and before that Exeter in Devon.  A number of us have been searching for James Traies and his (I think the latest count is 5) wives.

Kerry

[gennytreays]

Any reason you're all looking for a James Treays? And when and where was he supposed to have lived?

[kerryb]

Hi

James Traies was born 1785 in Exeter, Devon, and at some point moved to London.  For the best summary of his life Bob has a page on his brilliant website http://www.trease.org.uk/traies/txt/txt17s_ec.htm#19j_h

a number of rootschatters that have been on here are descended in some way from James, I'm descended from his son, Samuel.

Kerry

[gardenerbob]

Nothing particularly exciting but .... a long time back on this thread, a question was raised as to whether James could be the father of the following infant interred 15Apr1831 Bunhill cemetery - William Traies age 2yr 6mos of Powell Street.

I think I may have the answer, although I have not found his baptism. On 01oct1826, Mary and Elizabeth Traies daughters of William and Louisa Traies, Silversmith, of Powell Street were baptised at St Lukes Old Street Finsbury. I think it almost certain that William Traies the silversmith was also the father of the infant William of Powell Street. So far appears he was the only son and would have been the last son on this branch of the Traies family tree to carry on the family name. William the father almost certainly went to Cincinnatti after his son's death and returned to die in the UK.

Although that burial now has a probable answer, in my search I noticed another burial - Mary Traies interred 06Nov1828 age 8 mos at St Marys Paddington Green Westminster AAD Paddington. This could possibly be a child of James or even his Uncle James (who would have then been pushing 70!).

Regards,

Bob

[gardenerbob]

Correction:
Uncle James should have read Uncle William (the Chelsea pensioner with a younger wife) in last sentence of last post.

Apologies,

Bob