TREASE/TRAIES continued...

[deb usa]

re; The NANGLES

George and Betsey married in 1823

I found this interesting passenger list
Mr Nangle 35
Mrs Nangle 32
Joseph 13
Emma 9
Fanny 7
Clara 5
Albert 3

Ship; Monongahela
leaving Liverpool to Philadelphia. Penn
25 Nov 1831

need to follow through as I cannot spot any more on these people.

deb

[gardenerbob]

Hi Deb,

GEIMMETT could easily be a transcription error for GRIMMETT. Think the baptism of daughter of Susannah TREAYS daur of William TREAYS and MIss Geimett followed by marriage of William's son Henry to Sarah Grimmett cannot be a coincidence - it must be the same family. That William's brother Edward should marry a Gwinnett also looks strange - I don't think name is very common.

The Nangle passenger list entry looks superficially to be a long shot but Mrs Nangle's age matches Betsy's age. The son Joseph's age fits with George being a widower when he married Betsy. I think Nangle may be an Irish name so may not be uncommon for emigrants from Liverpool. We'll wait and see on that.

Finding the previously unknown Thomas Treays is really good find. More pieces to fit the Tr**s jigsaw puzzle.

Regards,

Bob

[deb usa]

morning all

THought I would finish the life of The unknown Henry TREAYS and Family.

Still can't see them in 1841.

1861
Lower Terrace
Islington St Mary, Middlesex
Samuel GRIMMETT head mar 44 dairyman b Westminster, Middx
Sarah A wife 47 b Islington
Rachael sister unm 56 dressmaker b Westminster St James
Mary A HEARN mother wid 68 dressmaker b Walworth, Surrey
SARAH TREAYS sister wid dressmaker b Westminster, St James
Mary A TREAYS niece unm 17 dressmaker b St Lukes, Middx
Thomas TREAYS nephew 10 b Shoreditch, Middx......... transcribed as TREEYS
Catherine Scanlan serv unm 30 dairymaid b Ireland, Kerry
Mary P/Bresmane serv 29 dairymaid b ditto

During this time, Sarah TREAYS, bc 1846 is working as a nurse maid in the home of William M Davies a lace warehouseman in Islington, 22 South Grove Street.

Found Henry's burial at last ...
Henry FREAYS, Islington, Middx, Lower Terrace, burial; 10 Jan 1855, age 40

deb

[deb usa]

death reg:
Henry Treays
mar q 1855
Islington
 1b 190

still looking for them in 1871.

1871: found a William TRAYS, prisoner, married, 21, tinman b St Lukes
Her Majestys Pentonville Prison
Islington
is he ours?

deb

[deb usa]

well , Thomas TREAYS must be somewhere in 1871 as I have him in 1891 as a Lodger and Shoe Riveter, b Shoreditch, age 40 (sic), in Kettering, Northamptonshire.

1881
Sarah Trayes (transcribed: Treayle, unm, 34, ) is  a servant to Mary Healey.
address;29 Triuder(?) St, St Mary, Islington

1871 (found her at last transcribed asTreay
9 Westbourne (Trestbourne ??) rd, Islington, St Clement
Sarah Treays, servant, unm 24 b Islington
working for Mary Healy.

By 1891 Sarah has been promoted to housekeeper for Mary Healy  . Sarah  is 44 still unmarried and now born Kentish Town. Living at 29 Trinder Rd, St Mary Islington.

1901 finds them still together at the same address.


Deb

[deb usa]

No luck with Thomas 
seems like the whole family has disappeared in 1871.

1881
29 alexander st, St Mary, Islington
Mary Ann TREAYS, lodger, unm, 37, dressmaker employing assistant, b St Luke
with Mary Ann Hood , annuitant

deb
added

Just found Sarah (the mum), her death
Sarah Treays
bc 1812
died; Jun q 1873
aged 61
 Islington
1b  178

so where is she in 1871?? 

[deb usa]

oooo yippeeee

1871
Islington, St Mary
31 Florence Street
Sarah VREAYS   def. TREAYS, head wid, 59 dressmaker b Clerkenwell
Martha Dau unm 27 dressmaker b ditto
THOMAS son unm 20 shoe trade, rough stuff cutter  b ditto

so is Martha actually Mary Ann??

the occupations all add up as do their ages.

[gardenerbob]

Hi Deb,

At least two new mistranscriptions - TRAYLE and VREAYS!! I really don't know how you find these.

I am trying to track down the prisoner William Trayes. Not any TRAIES we know about but may well be one of the other Trayes families from Cornwall. I can't see him yet but will try and track him down. An account of the trial is on the Old Bailey site - he got seven years.
http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t18700606-495&div=t18700606-495&terms=trays#highlight
He can't have been married long.

I am updating the website with details you have found and will post it up in the next hour or two.

I reckon the Martha name may be another error where the enumerator possibly jotted down MaryA and then copied the name as Martha.  These families really move about - Northants was the centre of the Uk shoe industry so I suppose that was why Thomas went to Kettering - strange the specialist jobs people had then -  rough stuff cutter.

Bye for now,

Bob

[deb usa]

Hi everyone

I was searching the Channel Islands for my cousin and came across this person;


1851
St Peter Port, Guernsey
45 Long ??
William TRAIS head wid 70 Annuitant b England

In 1841 I find this family.

Upper Don St.
St Helier, Jersey
Wm TREY 30 baker
Susan 30
Wm 7
Susan 6
all born "E" = England

Can't see anyone else in 1841, 1851 or 1861

deb