Bankier Clelland Leishman

[judb]

 Jane BANKIER (b about 1832)  m David CLELLAND (no information where or when, after 1851), first child was born in Rushworth Victoria; d 1919, Yarra Glen, Victoria, Australia.  David Clelland was born in Kilsyth and still living in Scotland (Cadder) with his parents in 1851.

Jane's parents' names: Samuel BANKIER and Mary LEISHMAN married 8 Aug 1818 (place not known)

I have a shipping record of a Jane CLELLAND aged 20 arriving Port Phillip June 1856, which would mean that they were married before emigrating but no other Clellands on that ship.  Dates are a bit fuzzy too but  possible. 

I have not been able to find a Samuel and Mary BANKIER, or a suitable Jane Bankier either, in the UK 1841 or 1851 census (need to look again as I now have better information about where they might have been living at the time).

 Any  information about Jane's birth or marriage or her parents would be just wonderful.

[roma]

On the IGI Samuel BANKIER married Mary LEISHMAN on 8 August 1818 at Kilsyth, Sterlingshire.

In 1841 Census at Kilsyth Mary BANKIER aged 40 is shown with the following BANKIERs' probably her children:
Alexander aged 15, Samuel and James both aged 10 and Janet aged 5.

In 1851 Census Janet BANKIER a dressmaker aged 16 is living with Mary LEISHMAN at Charles Street, Kilsyth.

I think Janet is probably your Jane, it is not unusual for this to happen or vice versa.
Quite often on Scottish Censuses the wife goes by her maiden name.

Hope this helps
Robert

[Raylen]

Hello

From  IGI  - Christening dates for children of Samuel Bankier and Mary Leishman

Ann Bankier 2/4/1820
Alexander Bankier 17/2/1822
William Bankier 10/8/1823
Mary Bankier 30/10/1825
Samuel Bankier 21/10/1827
James Bankier 9/7/1829
Jean Bankier 2/10/1831
Janet Bankier 6/7/1834

All born Kilsyth Stirling Scoland

A possible 
1851 Census
Inveraray
Jean Bankier 19 born Kilsyth - servant
with the Maitland family.

Good luck 

Raylen

[Raylen]

I have a shipping record of a Jane CLELLAND aged 20 arriving Port Phillip June 1856, which would mean that they were married before emigrating but no other Clellands on that ship.  Dates are a bit fuzzy too but  possible. 

Maybe this is not your Jane.

Your Jane Bankier and David Clelland had the following children registered in Victoria.

Alexander born 1855 Creswick (Registered as Cleland)[married Lotta Evylean Reid 1882]
Mary born 1857 Heathcote. Died 1914 Heathcote age 57 [married George Douglas Ferguson 1881]
Samuel born 1859 Heathcote
David born 1862 Heathcote
Margaret born 1864 Heathcote.Died 1919 Yarra Glen age 54 [married Edward Charles Morris 1886]
William Nicholas born 1867 Heathcote
Janet Bankier born 1872 Heathcote


Possible deaths for
Janet -                Jessie Bankie Clelland died 1941 age 68 years East Melbourne
                           Father: David  Mother:Jean Bankie
Alexander -         Alexander Clelland died 1915 age 60 years Costerfield
                           Father:  David  Mother: Janie Unknown

Hope this helps

Raylen

[Raylen]

From IGI

David Clelland married Jane Bankier
7/7/1854
Cadder,Lanark,Scoland

Raylen

[judb]

I see from re-looking at this that I didn't thank you Raylen and Roma for this information. 

Thanks a bunch - people on Rootschat are so kind with finding and sharing - it is MUCH appreciated!

[apanderson]

Do you have any information on any other Bankier Families?

The reason I ask is that Kilsyth Churchyard & Cemetery are FULL of Bankiers. I checked through MI's that I have but none match the folk mentioned in your post.

There is a stone for Samuel Bankier & wife Janet Anderson (+ upmteen of their offspring). Parts of the inscription are pretty worn but I made my best guess and Samuel, I think would have been born c1827. This is based on him being 78 when he died in 1906, but I'm not 100% sure that his age is 78 - the second number could be a 3, a 5 or and 8.

Could this Samuel be the son of Samuel Bankier & Mary Leishman?

Wife JANET ANDERSON died 8th April 189? aged 64

The children listed on the stone are as follows:
WILLIAM Bankier died 15th April 1861 aged 2y 3m
MARY GILCHRIST Bankier died 5th February 1866 aged 9m
JAMES Bankier died 22nd July 1903 aged 45
SAMUEL Bankier died 20th August 1906 aged ??

Also grandchildren
PETER G. Bankier died 24th July 1895 aged 2y 6m
MARGARET BROWN Bankier (daughter of above James Bankier and wife of John Stark) died 23rd August 1921 aged 35

I know you'd probably rather be moving backwards rather than forwards (or sideways) but I just thought this might add a wee 'extra', presuming, of course, that this is son Samuel in the first place!!

If it turns out that this family is part of yours and you'd like a copy of photographs of the stone, please send me a PM with your personal e-mail address and I'll forward copies.

Anne

[judb]

Many thanks, Anne for your kind offer.  I'll have to digest all this.  I think it is probably the same Samuel.  Will be in touch.

Judith

[McCann]

I would be interested to see if you went back further for David Clelland.  I have Clelands from Lanark (Barony Parish) and wonder if there is a connection going back.  Some of my Clelands are Alexander, Jane/t or Jean, William, Elizabeth, etc. 
McCann