Walter William BUSST (1857-1934)

[Ice Tiger]

Ancestors in hiding 

I'm looking for info on my elusive Great Grandparents Walter William & Elizabeth BUSST.

I can find some birth & death references but nothing in the middle from census etc.

Walter was born 1857 in Wolverhampton & died 1934 in Salford Gt Manchester (can find B & D on BDM index)

Elizabeth was born Elizabeth WILLIAMS in Wales (can only find D in BDM index) Williams, born in Wales 

There were three children John JACKSON, Walter BUSST & Aileen BUSST (my Grandmother).

Questions I need to find answers for are:

1)   Why no census records?
2)   Why no marriage record?
3)   Why has John got a diffrent surname to the other children?
4)   Also after her death my grandfather said my grandmother (Aileen Busst) grew up in a children's home, how do I research this?

Any assistance or pointers as to where to look next would be greatly appreciated. Also neither of them are listed on the Manchester Council online burial/cremation records but the Manchester link is confirmed on my grandmothers birth certificate. Unfortunately my grandmother would not talk about her family & my grandfather mostly kept to this after her death.

Thanks

Andy

[Treelover]

Hi

Hate to sound stupid here, but if your G Grandfather had surname Williams, where does the BUSST come into it, if your G Grandmother was born Elizabeth Williams in Wales 

Also can you give us John, Walter & Aileen's DOBs this may help.

Joan

[Ice Tiger]

I may not have put it clearly so will try again....

Walter William Busst (1857-1934) and Elizabeth Williams (1873/74-1940)

They are my great Grandparents (listed as Walter William Busst & Elizabeth Busst on my grandmothers birth certificate)

There were 3 children

John Jackson (born 1909)
Walter Busst (born between 1910 & 1914))
Aileen Josephine Busst (born 1915)

Aileen Josephine was my Grandmother

Hope this helps

Andy

[ShaunJ]

birth of Walter junior:

Q/E Sep 1912 Manchester  8d 428

Busst  Walter W 

Mother's maiden name Williams 

[ShaunJ]

I think this is the probably the Busst family in 1861:

Wolverhampton Street, Bilston

Joseph Prust,  Head 41  Contractor Birmingham
Elizabeth Prust  wife 37                   Bilston
James Prust 15  son Engine Fitter do
Jane Prust 6  daur scholar do
Walter Prust 4  son scholar do
Samuel Smith 25  boarder engine driver do
 
 RG9/ 2008 Folio 31 Page 6

This could be Jane:

Births Jun 1855:    Busst,  jane maria     Wolverhampton  6b 484

[ShaunJ]

Here are Elizabeth and Jane Maria Busst in 1871 in Great Bridge, Tipton:

11 Limerick Passage

Elizabeth Busst 46   W  Dressmaker Bilston
Jane Maria Busst 16  unm
John Kidley 27  boarder unm copper furnaceman Stratford on Avon
Richard Nicholas 26  boarder saddler Church Stainton
 
RG10/3002 Folio 57 Page 3

[ShaunJ]

Looks like Walter's sister Jane married a Frederick Harry Wadelin in Warrington in 1876 and emigrated to the US on the Circassia 24/11/1885 (from Glasgow). http://www.castlegarden.org/

Elizabeth Busst may also have married a Wadelin  - John Wadelin - in Wolverhampton in 1873.

[ShaunJ]

In 1871 "Walter W Buss " aged 14 from Bilston is a servant in the household of William H Poulton in Edgbaston RG10/3082 folio 75 page 73

[ShaunJ]

Sister Jane Wadelin is in Warrington in 1881:

52 Pierpoint St

Frederick H. Wadelin 25 Iron Worker Stourbridge
Jane M. Wadelin 25 Bilston
Blanche Wadelin 2  Warrington
 
 RG11/3792 folio 86 page 8