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Jenkins,Dwyer,Salmon from Bray
« on: Thursday 13 March 08 13:26 GMT (UK) »
After more than 30 years research I found an obit for one of my Irish immigrants and it states he was born in Bray.  The names are as stated.  If anyone lives in Bray and can do research for me there I would greatly appreciate it.  The family left during the potato famine and are found in the US first in 1850.  Please contact me at  **** Thank you,  Lea Mitchell in CT,USA   PS  I am Soooo happy to finally discover Where in Ireland they were from!

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Re: Jenkins,Dwyer,Salmon from Bray
« Reply #1 on: Monday 19 May 08 03:28 BST (UK) »
Hello Lea,

Does the obit. specify Bray, Co. Wicklow or does it say "Bray, Ireland" ???

Bray   823 Kerry Iveragh Valencia Cahersiveen Munster
Bray   334 Wicklow Rathdown Bray Rathdown Leinster

What denomination were your ancestors? You'll have to rely on Church records as your ancestors were born before Civil Registration was introduced in Ireland. Non Catholic marriages were registered from 1845 onwards. When registration for BDMs started in 1864 some people didn't bother with the registration for a few years after that date. Keep your fingers crossed that church records still exist.

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Re: Jenkins,Dwyer,Salmon from Bray
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 12 October 08 03:06 BST (UK) »
The obit just said Bray,Ireland.  Are you saying there are 2 Bray's in Ireland?  Where is the other?  I can't really understand what you mean by what you have written here.   Lea
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Re: Jenkins,Dwyer,Salmon from Bray
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 12 October 08 03:09 BST (UK) »
The daughter Mary (born after the family arrived in NY) married in the US as a Catholic but in the next generation I find a record of a son John (b) 1833/34 in Ireland being mentioned as Church of England which seems odd to me.  I thought if not Catholic it would be Church or Ireland.  Lea
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Re: Jenkins,Dwyer,Salmon from Bray
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 12 October 08 11:08 BST (UK) »
Bray   823 Kerry Iveragh Valencia Cahersiveen Munster
Bray   334 Wicklow Rathdown Bray Rathdown Leinster

There are 2 townlands in Ireland named Bray (as well as the town of Bray in Co. Wicklow)- one in Co. Kerry and the other in Co. Wicklow.
The information Christopher posted looks like it was copied from www.thecore.com/seanruad which is a fantastic site to find townlands and parishes in Ireland.
Bray- 823 acres- Co. Kerry - Iveragh Barony- Valencia Parish- Cahersiveen Poor Law Union- Munster Province
Bray- 334 acres- Co. Wicklow- Rathdown Barony- Bray Parish- Rathdown Poor Law Union- Leinster Province

However, searching for 'Bray' in Ireland brings up other results: Bray Commons, Upper Bray, Lower Bray as well as Ballybray, Braysland, Braystown, Little Bray.
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Re: Jenkins,Dwyer,Salmon from Bray
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 12 October 08 15:51 BST (UK) »
Hello Lea,

There's another one mentioned in Sean Ruad IreAtlas.

It's a spelling variation but sounds the same 8)

Townland: AKA Brae
Acres: 199
County: Antrim
Barony: Lower Antrim
Civil Parish: Skerry
PLU: Ballymena
Province: Ulster

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Re: Jenkins,Dwyer,Salmon from Bray
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 October 08 07:12 BST (UK) »
When I found the obit saying the family was from Bray I was surprised anyway because family history Always said they were from CorkCo.  No "BRAY" there!  Guess I Never Will know where they were from!  Lea Mitchell in CT,USA
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Re: Jenkins,Dwyer,Salmon from Bray
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 October 08 07:14 BST (UK) »
What is a "townland".  You say there r 2 one being in Wicklow and one in Kerry  then u say there is the one in Wicklow.  Does that mean there r 2 Bray in Wicklow alone and a third Bray in Kerry?
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Re: Jenkins,Dwyer,Salmon from Bray
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 October 08 08:48 BST (UK) »
Townlands are not the same as towns. There is a townland in Kerry named Bray and in Wicklow there's a town named Bray as well as a townland. To understand what townlands are and why they are so important:
www.ulsterancestry.com/ulster_townlands_by_county.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Townland
www.ulsterplacenames.org/celebrating_ulster's_townlands_exhibition.htm

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