Elizabeth Perkins of Wokingham

[TyGwyn46]

Hi

John Perkins was born at Llanvirn Farm, Berea, Pembrokshire - brothers appear to be Thomas (b 1805) Peter ( b 1806) and William (b1814). There must be more siblings, but they may remain a mystery.

Their parents are Henry (1778-1852) and Mary Williams (1785-1853). Have traced a copy of Henry's Will  at Welsh National library (Ref SD1852-133) 1852, but wrong image is attatched so I need to get a paper copy.

Henry's parents: John Perkins (1747-1835) and catherine Meyler (1752-1834). All farmers in the area at eith er Llanvern (Llanvirn/Llan-fyrn) or Pyll Cearog Farm next door.

Parents of John Perkins: John Perkins (1697-1763) and Ann Meyler (1712-1781).

Have got in touch with decendant of William Perkins (1814-1887) who has a family bible and can confirm the family links.

I am really pleased to have at last found him out! The Meyler name is also confirmation. It's been really bugging me for ages!!

Perks1

Hi Perks1

I've only just discovered RootsChat so I hope you'll forgive me if I'm a bit green on procedure. My cousin's wife (now in her late 80's) has been researching my mother's side of the family for over 35 years, all without a computer. She's kindly allowed me to scan a huge number of documents and charts, amongst which are several devoted to the Perkins family.

My maternal grandmother was Catherine Perkins (b. 1869, d. 1922), the daughter of Capt. Peter Perkins (b. 1838, d. 1895). They lived in St. David's, Pembrokeshire. The tree shows both Ann(e) (b. 1712) and Catherine (b. 1750) Meyler, and their respective marriages to John (b. 1697) and John (b. c1747) Perkins. What is particularly interesting is that my cousin's wife has traced my maternal ancestry to about 1490 with the birth of John Perkins of Mathry & St. David's. He was the father of David ap John Perkins (b. c1520, d. 1587).

If you'd like any further information, I'll be happy to share it with you and others on this forum.

Best wishes.

Robert (TyGwyn46)

[Perks1]

Hi Robert

Thanks for getting in touch.

I would be really grateful for any info you can share. It is a little difficult to definately connect the relatives of Henty Perkins upwards so if you've got any info that could be of help would be fantastic!!

Regrds Perks1.

[marinerclark]

Hello rootschatters   Was googling john Perkins and Catherine meyler and found this thread under Berkshire.  Wow    John perkins 1748-1835 is believed to be a brother to George 1745-1797.  Also a brother William.  Want to mark this thread for future.  John was not a farmer but a mariner; had a file with Trinity house in 1815.  George also owned a ship and farmed at Porthlisky near St. David.   looking forward to sharing   LizR

[Perks1]

Hi Liz

Good to hear from you. You are indeed correct. My research shows that John Perkins (1747-1835) was a mariner born into a predominantly farming family. This is what I have on John. You probably have most of this anyway. His siblings are:

Grace  - 1737-1742
George 1739-1742
William 1742-1812
George 1744-1797
David 1749-1753
Grace 1753-1766
David 1757-1766

I think he was born at Caerwen Farm and first went to sea in 1766. He married Catherine Meyler 23 Dec 1776. I think that they were first cousins.

Catherine and he have the following children:

Henry 1778-1852
John 1780-1841
Peter 1780-1839
Thomas 1782-1872
Eleanor 1784-1834
Martha  1787 - ?

His Trinity House petition appears to imply that Peter and Eleanor both have learning difficulties, which is backed up by his Will in which he leaves his farm Llanvern y frane to his son John, providing that he provides a home for life to his brother Peter and sister Eleanor.

He died on 19 Aug 1835 and was buried at St David Cathedral on 21 Aug.

Good to hear from you

Perks1

 

[marinerclark]

Good Morning  Great to have all that.  You are way ahead of me.   I am descended from George's 1744-1797 daughter Martha who married Gilbert Howell in 1812.    Where did you find all the baptisms?   I also tried the SoG site to order the Trinity House petition and got nowhere.  Have read his will and son John in 1841.  His father John appears to have no will or Ann the mother???    Appreciate your help.    LizR

[Perks1]

Most of the info I have has been kindly given to me by other Perkins researchers, many of whom have done it all the old fashioned way, visiting graves and local parish records offices. I take my hat off to them, as it must have been a painstaking business.

I don't have much info on what happened to Martha Perkin married to Gilbert Howell. I would love to find out more if you have some info you can share with me.

Perks1

[mrs.family]

Hi chaps,
I heard about this thread from Liz, and hope nobody minds me sticking in my two-pennorth-worth?

*DW James in his 'St Davids and Dewisland' says John Perkin emigrated on the "Wave" to Tazmania in 1838, and says that John is the son of Henry Perkin and Mary [nee Williams] of Llanvirn, St Davids, Pembs,  born 1812.

*Public Trees on Ancestry show John going to Australia, and also his brother Thomas [b 1806]; and link into Perkin and Nephew; and also link into Berea church in Hobart - which I found interesting, since Berea Independent chapel at St David's was the first chapel in Wales with this name, as far as I'm aware....

*The Will of Henry Perkin of Llanvirn, the father of these two brothers [Will made 1846; died 1852], says that he leaves £5 to son Thomas "if he ever returns to GB" - it also mentions some monies that Thomas has left in his father's care - and £5 left to John "if he ever returns to GB".
        [ NB this Will is wrongly listed under the name of 'Henry Chalk' on the Nat Library of Wales website]

*This may be a total red herring, but mentions of a Thomas Perkin, age 23, in 1829 on the convict ship 'Thames' and a John Perkin in 1838 on the convict ship 'Lord Lyndoch' can be found on the ships'  Medical Records.

I don't think i'm related to the Perkin families on this thread, but I do have Perkin ancestors from St Davids, so I've enjoyed reading the posts - and also seeing how everyone has helped each other here.

[Perks1]

Hello

Good to hear from you. Thank you for your input. Always good to hear that research is backed up by other sources. Not come across DW James before. Thanks.

There seems to be a huge number of Perkins researchers around and about, which is great news. As you say - loads on 'ancestry', my tree included.

Perks1

[mrs.family]

hi Perks1 and TyGwyn46,

PWLLCAEROG
I'm finding it difficult to push back beyond John Perkin of Pwllcaerog, b1697.
There is a Will of David Perkins of Pwllcaerog, dated 1681, in which he says he has a son George, who is the executor, so presumably over 21. If George was born pre-1660, then MAYBE his son was John b 1697.
John b 1697 has children named George and David - but I'm clearly reduced to speculation here......
Can anyone advise, please?

CAERHYS [farm next door to Llanvirn, and also near Pwllcaerog]
My own Perkin line goes back to Lewis and Jenet Perkin, whose children were born 1730-1754 - so I'm provisionally assuming Lewis and Jenet were born around 1710.
Their children were:
Peter b 1730 [my direct ancestor]
Thomas b 1733
Henry b 1736
Mary b 1739
James b 1743
Anne b 1746
John b 1749
William b 1754
I'd like to connect Lewis Perkin with the wider Perkin/s families in St Davids, and push back this family a few more generations, so again I'm hoping for some advice!

thanks, Elaine