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Re: Seeking the Scally's Kilbeggan
« Reply #27 on: Friday 09 March 12 17:39 GMT (UK) »
Some headstones in Kilbeggan cemetery;

Elizabeth Scally; Attyconnor Kilbeggan
29/2/1960 (101)
her son-James; 27/12/1981 (78)
his son-Brendan Pius; 27/1/1956 (7 months)
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Adrian Richard; Kilcloghan & Birr
12/6/1972 (19)
his bro- Philip Joseph; 14/4/1996
their father-Richard B (Dick);
26/9/2007
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James Scally; Bridget st Kilbeggan
30/10/1984
his sister-Mary Jo; 9/12/1997
their parents- Bessie & James
(interred in Horseleap)
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Daniel Scally; Kilcloghan 16/9/1935 (67)
wife-Bridget; 27/2/1951 (69)
Noel Scally; Kilcloghan 25/1/1988 (67)
his grandson-Noel; 22/1/1988-5/5/1988
Therese wife of Noel; 12/6/2000 (70)
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Re: Seeking the Scally's Kilbeggan
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 16 June 18 17:48 BST (UK) »
I have just seen these posts that refer to some of my ancestors (The three Lucas sisters), they are my Great Aunts.
I have been researching many branches of my Family tree using Ancestry.co.uk, but hit a brick wall with all of my Grandfather's family. I now know that apart from Ruby, Winnie and Frances that a fourth sister was also living in Athlone (Olive).
Somebody else had posted on their Tree that Ruby was Living with the FitzGibbon Family at St Ann's, Killiney Hill Road for some time.
Olive and Winnie did indeed live at 9 Lyme Road, Southend on Sea, together with their Mother.
Please can any of the people that have posted entries on this thread get in touch?
I have a picture of Olive and Winnie with their Mother and younger Brother and his Son.

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Re: Seeking the Scally's Kilbeggan
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 06 July 24 16:45 BST (UK) »
Hello, Anthony! I hope this response finds you well.

I'm a bit slow to this party of yours, but I'm currently doing some family tree research of my own and it relates to the Scallys in the photo you posted (George and Frances, posing with their children). The photo includes my mother, Theresa, the eldest daughter, standing centre of back row.

Would be great to chat. I suspect you have info. on whole branches of the family tree about which I know little or nothing. And maybe I can help you with your enquiries. Regardless of how belatedly I'm reaching out.

FYI, as a bit of background context, I'm a dual-national. South London born and now living in North London. I'm in contact with many dozens of siblings, cousins, etc. from a pair of large families. I'm the youngest of 7. My Mother was one of 8. My father was the youngest of 9. One of my cousins, Kate, has already been in touch with you - around the time of your original post and enquiry.

With best wishes,

DES

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Re: Seeking the Scally's Kilbeggan
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 07 July 24 20:41 BST (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat  :)

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…my record of George and Francis.    He died in England age 69 in 1966 which would give his birth as 1876.  He was a retired civil servant and was buried in Relic cemetery in Kilbeggan.   I wonder if you could find his marriage details…

Death 1 July 1966 aged 69 yrs at Golden Island, Athlone. The informant his widow Frances M Scully Scally.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1966/04221/4080088.pdf

Marriage Oct-Dec 1919   
SCALLY    George             Billericay       4a      1539
LUCAS    Frances M           Billericay       4a      1539

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Ethel married Joseph Scally but he was killed at Paschendale in OCTOBER 1917 and my mother Josephine Francis Scally was born 4/1/1918.

FreeBMD   https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Birth Jan-Mar 1918   
Scally    Josephine F        Chelmsford    4a     05

Marriage Jan-Mar 1917
Scally    Joseph    Billericay    4a   860
Lucas    Ethel    Billericay    4a   860


Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo


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Re: Seeking the Scally's Kilbeggan
« Reply #31 on: Monday 08 July 24 07:18 BST (UK) »

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Looking at the 1901 and 1911 census, some of the kids (George in particular)  seems to be always with Grandad Patrick in Cornagher (the homestead near Kilbeggan), and the younger girls with their parents in Dublin.

Patrick Scally 1901 census
House 3 in Cornaher (Newtown, Westmeath)
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Westmeath/Newtown/Cornaher/1785112/

Scally children 1901 census
House 10 in Cornaher (Newtown, Westmeath)
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Westmeath/Newtown/Cornaher/1785119/
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001267320/

George Scally 1911 census with sister Kate (Catherine).
House 12 in Cornaher (Newtown, Westmeath)
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Westmeath/Newtown/Cornaher/887767/

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You'll find Joseph and Margaret with the youngest girls (Elizabeth  & Mary (b.1899, d.1980) the formidable Aunt May)) in Usher key in 1911 census.

1911 census - Scally
House 15.3 in Robert St. (Usher's Quay, Dublin)
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Usher_s_Quay/Robert_St_/71448/


Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: Seeking the Scally's Kilbeggan
« Reply #32 on: Monday 08 July 24 09:49 BST (UK) »

George Scally 1911 census with sister Kate (Catherine).
House 12 in Cornaher (Newtown, Westmeath)
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Westmeath/Newtown/Cornaher/887767/


Catherine Scally married Martin Daly on 2 October 1905 at Kilbeggan RC Church. Her sister Maggie Scally was one of the witnesses. Catherine living at Cornaher.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1905/10184/5705641.pdf

Three eldest children born by 1911.
Winifred 1906, Joseph 1908, Martin 1910
https://tinyurl.com/dm5sefvm

Also Margaret Mary born 1912.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01471/1599593.pdf


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Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: Seeking the Scally's Kilbeggan
« Reply #33 on: Monday 08 July 24 18:01 BST (UK) »
Following up on my earlier reply (two days ago) here's some specific data by way of a direct response to your query, Anthony.
I'm not sure how much of this will still be new news to you by now, after your searches, or different from what you already know. It's just a snapshot of the Scally info. I hold:

George SCALLY m. (19/11/1919) Frances Mary LUCAS   
b. 1/9/1896              b. 9/6/1898, Bury St. Edmunds
d. 1/7/1966               d. 11/6/1969
(both buried at Relic cemetery, Kilbeggan)

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Re: Seeking the Scally's Kilbeggan
« Reply #34 on: Monday 08 July 24 22:06 BST (UK) »

George SCALLY m. (19/11/1919) Frances Mary LUCAS   
b. 1/9/1896              b. 9/6/1898, Bury St. Edmunds


Married in Billericay, Essex as shown in reply #30

Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Seeking the Scally's Kilbeggan (Southend / South London branch)
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 09 July 24 08:21 BST (UK) »
Yes, I was trying to build in some brief additional personal details onto the earlier replies (incl. #30). But I have loads more.

They were married in the R.C. Church of the Most Holy Redeemer (21 Laindon Rd, Billericay CM12 9LL). Their certificate gives their respective home addresses at the time as:
Trees Heath (military) camp, Whitechurch, Salop, and 2, Jubilee Cottages, Buttsbury - see: https://www.billericayhistory.org.uk/content/topics/people-2/george-saner-the-rhubarb-sheds

The same church had also seen the earlier marriage of George's older brother, Joseph ("Joe") to Frances's older sister, Ethel (through whom the younger couple had, presumably, met). Witnesses to the earlier marriage were Harry Lucas of Billericay (her father, the "Staff Quarter Master-Sergeant of the Essex Regiment") and Edward McAuley of Warley barracks - presumably Joe's army buddy(?).

Joseph fought (and died) with the Irish Guards in WW1, while George served with the Royal Garrison Artillery regiment - and survived, luckily for the whole swathe of descendants he eventually left behind. Me included.

He remained in the British Army long after the war, eventually serving "back home" at the Spike Island military site, where a number of his children were born / raised. Before he moved his family to live above and run a small backstreet store, in a relatively poor district of his native Dublin. The family later still returned to the UK, where they spent the WW2 years and beyond.

I've seen George described on his death registration as a "retired civil servant". But that's rather misleading - and perhaps a result of some occupation / status snobbery. He did later work in the Royal Mail, but he was initially and primarily a military man.

I have (and try to maintain) a fairly complete family tree for all of their descendants. Which may be of interest to a number of respondents here. But it's very difficult to share all that content in narrative format.