One for Liverpool Annie Part 2

[Boltonmets]

Hi All,

I have just read all your information about Richard Brown of the 11th Hussars. He was present at the charge of the light brigade. He is my 3 x great grandads brother. I only had confirmation that this was my man this week end so all the information you posted was brilliant. Esp the headstone photos!
If there is any more information you can give me or advice on where to go to next for more info I would be very gratefull.

Thanks

Boltonmets

[liverpool annie]

Hi Boltonmets and welcome to RootsChat !!

I love to hear that !!  .... almost as good as finding my own !! 

Keep watching this space ... you never know what might see !! 

What do you have already ?

Annie 

[Boltonmets]

Hi again.

Richard Brown was born in 1825 in Ryton Kirby Misperton, Yorkshire. He was the son of William Brown. (my Great X4 Grandad) In the 1851 Census I found him in 11th Hussars barracks in Norwich. I sent for his dischage papers to confirm I had the right man which came and confirmed this to be true. I found a web site that confirmed Private 1153 Richard Brown rode at the charge of the light brigade.

I am interested in where to go next with my research and would be very gratefull of any extra information any one may have on him. (ESP PHOTOS!!)
I am also after any further information on his father William (born Leeds between 1776-79) and mother Hannah Brown if any one can help as Brown is a nightmare name to trace!!!!!

Thanks again for all the info already gained from rootschat it has been very helpful.

Cheers

Chris

[forester]

Hello Chris,

Just hang on in this thread
You never know what turns up.
It's just hard slog on search engines mostly that has rooted out the information.
Have you managed to find anything at the National Archives on Richard Brown, such as discharge papers etc?

Thanks for the link.
They are all there; 19 pages of them from Cardigan, Douglas etc onwards, including wives and children.

HO 107/1813  folio 366 page 2..............

Cavalry Barracks
Pockthorpe
Norwich

Phil

Edit: Ignore the line about discharge papers Chris; brains not engaging properly

[liverpool annie]

I LOVE that census !! .... what a historical document that is !! 

By the way the two photos I posted are connected !! they're both the same monument !! 

I'm still looking Chris ! .... just so you know !! 

[liverpool annie]

Thomas George Johnson b 1824 ( ? ) Maidstone Kent - son of John William Johnson b 1805 at Maidstone Kent

Thomas George Johnson joined 4th Light Dragoons as a private in 1837 ( ? ) and became a trumpeter two years later. He transferred into the 13th as a private in 1846 - rising to Sergeant on 25th May 1853. He took part in the Charge of the Light Brigade and was promoted to RSM eleven days afterwards. Three years later he was given a commission with the rank of Cornet, rising to Lieutenant and Adjutant on 30th may 1860. By May 1866, he was a Captain and Musketry Instructor. He retired by sale of commission 10th November 1869. Retired to Scarborough as manager of The Royal Hotel  - died 24 May 1908 aged 84 in Scarborough and buried Scarborough Cemetery.

http://www.britishempire.co.uk/forces/armyunits/britishcavalry/13thhussarsjohnson.htm

"Funeral at Scarborough - The funeral took place at Scarborough Cemetery on the 27th. The cortege left the home of the deceased shortly before two o'clock and proceeded to Holy Trinity Church, where a service was held, the officiating clergy being the Revd. C.W.A. Clark, vicar of Holy Trinity and the Revd. H. Merry weather, vicar of St. Matthews. The hymns sung at the service were "Now the labourer's task is o'er," and "Peace, perfect peace", followed by the 39th Psalm. At the conclusion of the service the Dead March in "Saul" was played on the organ. Then follows a list of mourners and wreath-senders... The coffin was of plain un-polished oak with brass mountings, and bore the inscription -  "Thomas George Johnson, died May 24th 1908, aged 84 years""

Dean Road Cemetery at Scarborough show that he was buried there in space # 52 South Terrace Alcove
The full inscription on his gravestone reads - "In memoriam of Ellen wife of Major Thomas G. Johnson late Captain 13th Hussars who died June 5th 1883 aged 48 years. Also of the above Thomas G. Johnson who died May 24th 1908, aged 84 years".

[forester]

Thomas George Johnson

1841 Census
Maidstone Barracks
Kent

Thomas Geo. Johnson
Age 15 (rounded)
Trumpeter in the Army
Born in the county

[liverpool annie]

Thanks Phil !

I was thinking 13 was a little young to join up as a private ( though I know they had "boy soldiers " ) !! 

Annie 

[liverpool annie]

Heres Steves list ! do you think we could go through these ??  

http://www.angelfire.com/mp/memorials/crimroll6.htm

4th DRAGOON GUARDS

Pte Thomas Ryan - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854

5th DRAGOON GUARDS

Pte Bernard Callery - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Corporal James Taylor - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854

1st DRAGOONS

Pte Charles Middleton - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte Thomas Shore - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854

2nd NORTH BRITISH DRAGOONS

Pte Henry Campbell - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Corporal A.P. Clifford - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854

6th DRAGOONS

Pte Robert Elliot - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte Alexander Latimer - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854

4th LIGHT DRAGOONS

Trumpeter Thomas Burns - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Sergeant Edward Cambell - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte James Donaldson - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte Daniel Haxhall - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Troop Sergeant Major Francis Herbert - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte Thomas Hutton - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Trumpeter Edward Lovelock - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Sergeant Richard Lynch - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte Charles Marshall - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte Thomas Moody - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte Michael Phelan - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
No. 1065 Pte James Rickman - killed at the Battle of Inkermann 5 November 1855
Pte George Robinson - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Corporal Henry Spence - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte George Swan - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte Thomas Tomset - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte Charles Waight - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
No. 1526 Pte Charles Wholman - killed at the Battle of Inkermann 5 November 1855

8th (King's Royal Irish) HUSSARS

Pte Joshua Adams - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte John Barry - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte Michael Brennan - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte James Dies - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Corporal William Donald - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte Andrew Finnegan - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte Denis Hanrahan - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte Thomas Heffron - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte Edmund Herbert - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte Matthew Keating - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Troop Sergeant Major H. McCluer - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte Edward McDonald - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte George Morris - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Sergeant Michael Rielly - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte Charles Waterer - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte John White - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Sergeant William Williams - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854

11th HUSSARS

Pte C. Allured - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte J. Brunton - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte R. Bubb - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte C.B. Cooper - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte W. Davis - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte T. Elder - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Corporal T. France - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte J.M. George - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte R. Gwinnell - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte G. Horne - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte J. Jackman - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Sergeant J. Jones - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Sergeant T. Jordan - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte R. Lazell - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte J. Larkin - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte R. Levett - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte D. Purcell - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte L. Shoppee - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte T. Shrive - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte W.H. Spring - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte J. Stephenson - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte H. Wakelin - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte D. Ward - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte W. Wareham - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte G. Wooton - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
No. 1625 Pte George Wright - killed at the Battle of Inkermann 5 November 1855

13th LIGHT DRAGOON

Pte Thomas Blackett - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte Charles Court - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte William Dorell - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte Robert Fraser - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte William Lawson - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte Thomas McGorrine - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte James Slattery - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Corporal E.W.A. Smith - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte James Watson - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Troop Sergeant Major John Webster - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854
Pte T.J. Williams - killed at Balaklava 25 October 1854