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Re: One for Liverpool Annie Part 2
« Reply #99 on: Friday 21 March 08 03:14 GMT (UK) »


This is a little off topic but ....... ! why does this make me sad AND mad ??!!  ::)

TRIO - Crimea Medal 1854-56 - four bars - Alma; Balaklava; Inkerman; Sebastopol; Turkish Crimea Medal 1855; Army Long Service and Good Conduct Medal (VR)(2nd type). 433 Sergt Jno Watson 8th Hussars on first medal, Serjeant J.Watson 8th Hussars on second medal, Serjt Jno Watson 8th Hussars on third medal. All three medals engraved. Cased. A rare group to a sergeant of the famous Light Brigade. Very fine.
 
Estimate $10,500

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« Reply #100 on: Friday 21 March 08 04:25 GMT (UK) »


Luke Oakley DCM - 11th Hussars

Memorial at Wirksworth Church and Cemetery Derbyshire -

"In loving remembrance of Luke Oakley who was born at Yapton near Arundel Sussex and died at Wirksworth February 18th 1870 aged 65 years. He enlisted 20th January 1832 in the 11th Hussars in which he served more than 24 years. He was 4 years in India also throughout the Crimean War, was present at the following engagements viz. Alma, Inkerman, Balaclava and Sebastopol. For his gallant service he received the following decorations, Crimean Medal with 4 clasps also a Turkish Medal, Medal of distinguished conduct in the field, and the one for long service and good conduct. He also received five good conduct badges. On the 20th of October 1854 at the Battle of Balaclava he was appointed Orderly to Dr. St Croix Cross. By his comrades he was called the model of the Regiment. He also served 14 years in the Civil Service and was in receipt of pensions from both services. To sum up in a few words he was a genial, kindly, modest Englishman and a brave soldier also of Ann his wife who died December 14th 1906 aged 88 years."

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« Reply #101 on: Friday 21 March 08 06:43 GMT (UK) »

Godfrey Charles Morgan

1st Viscount Tredegar was born on April 28, 1831 in Ruperra Castle Glamorganshire. He was educated at Eton and joined the British Army in 1853.
When the Crimean War broke out in 1854, Godfrey Morgan held the rank of Captain in the 17th Lancers and he accompanied his famous regiment to the scene of the great struggle. He was in action at the Battle of Alma and later on the October 25, 1854 was in command of a section of the Light Brigade that rode into the 'Jaws of Death' at the Battle of Balaclava.

Godfrey Charles Morgan (1831-1913) was MP for Breconshire from 1858 until 1875 when he succeeded his father as 2nd Baron Tredegar. He was created First Viscount in 1905.

In later years, as other members of the Morgan family had been in the past, he became a benefactor to the people of Newport. Large tracts of land were donated to the Corporation for the benefit of the public, including Belle Vue Park, the Royal Gwent Hospital and Newport Athletics Grounds. This earned him the nickname of "Godfrey the Good" among local people.
Godfrey became a Viscount in 1905, and become the first Freeman of Newport in 1909.
Godfrey Morgan died on March 11 1913 aged 82 and is buried at Bassaleg Parish Church.

*EJ Boys - Morgan Cpt Godfrey 17th L

First photo is from the Queens collection ..... Captain Morgan on the winner of the Crimean Races 1855
And the second is - a bronze equestrian statue of Viscount Godfrey which was unveiled in 1909 in Gorsedd Gardens Cardiff as he was in 1854 in the uniform of the 17th Lancers on pilastered plinth of Darley Dale stone. Bronze reliefs depicting the Charge of the Light Brigade. At one end of plinth portrait stone relief, encircled by a wreath of oak-leaves depicts Lord Tredegar as he was at the time the statue was unveiled. At the opposite end of the plinth encircled in a laurel wreath are the Tredegar arms and motto.



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« Reply #102 on: Saturday 22 March 08 16:04 GMT (UK) »



Lord Raglan 1st Baron Fitzroy James Henry Somerset born 30 September 1788 Badminton Gloucestershire England – died 28 June 1855 ( known before 1852 as Lord FitzRoy Somerset )

He was the eighth and youngest son of Henry Somerset 5th Duke of Beaufort by Elizabeth, daughter of Admiral the Hon. Edward Boscawen - Lord Fitzroy Somerset was educated at Westminster School and entered the army in 1804. In 1807 he was attached to the Hon. Sir Arthur Paget's embassy to Turkey - and the same year he was selected to serve on the staff of Sir Arthur Wellesley in the expedition to Copenhagen. In the following year he accompanied the same general in a like capacity to Portugal, and during the whole of the Peninsular War was at his right hand first as aide-de-camp and then as military secretary.

He was wounded at the Battle of Bucaco, became brevet-major after Fuentes de Onoro, accompanied the stormers of the 52nd light infantry as a volunteer at Ciudad Rodrigo and specially distinguished himself at the storming of Badajoz, being the first to mount the breach and afterwards securing one of the gates before the French could organize a fresh defence. On 6 August 1814 he married Lady Emily Harriet Wellesley-Pole, daughter of the 3rd Earl of Mornington ( the Duke of Wellington's niece ) During the short period of the Bourbon rule in 1814 and 1815 he was secretary to the British embassy at Paris. On the renewal of the war he again became aide-de-camp and military secretary to the Duke of Wellington.

At Waterloo he was wounded in the right arm and had to undergo amputation - but he quickly learned to write with his left hand, and on the conclusion of the war resumed his duties as secretary to the embassy at Paris. From 1818 to 1820 and again in 1826–29, he sat in the British House of Commons as member for Truro. In 1819 he was appointed secretary to the Duke of Wellington as master-general of the ordnance - and from 1827 till the death of the duke in 1852 was military secretary to him as commander-in-chief. He was then appointed Master-General of the Ordnance, a Privy Counsellor (16 October 1852) and was created Baron Raglan (20 October 1852).

His failure to give coherent or timely commands on the field of battle led to numerous mistakes, and his blind ignorance of the growing rivalry between the Earl of Lucan and the Earl of Cardigan would have tragic consequences in the infamous Charge of the Light Brigade. At Balaklava and Inkerman he displayed a complete lack of any tactical acumen, sending small British units against large Russian contingents - on several occasions this resulted in the complete destruction of the British units. Despite this lack of competence on his part - the battle resulted in an Allied victory and he was promoted to the rank of Field Marshal.

During the trying winter of 1854–55 - the suffering he was compelled to witness the censures which he had to endure and all the manifold anxieties of the siege seriously undermined his health, and although he found a friend and ardent supporter in his new French colleague, General Pelissier, disappointment at the failure of the assault of 18 June 1855 finally broke his spirit, and very shortly afterwards on July 9, he died of dysentery. His body was brought home and interred at Badminton.

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« Reply #103 on: Saturday 22 March 08 16:13 GMT (UK) »



Queen Victoria was sensitive  to the conditions in which wounded soldiers were being treated through her visits to the sick and injured. After visiting a military hospital at Fort Pitt in Chatham, Queen Victoria wrote to Lord Panmure Secretary for War, criticising the buildings with their high windows, small wards, and lack of a dining room  " so that the poor men must have their dinners in the same room in which they sleep - and in which some may be dying "

Queen Victoria and Prince Albert met some of the wounded men who had returned from the Crimea at Chatham Kent on 3 March 1855. After visiting the hospital at Fort Pitt they went to Brompton Barracks. It was there that Queen Victoria met the men she later sketched -  probably from memory. She described in her journal how Sergeant Scarff of the 17th Lancers " told us how he had received his sabre cuts - one on his head and one on his two hands - which he had put up to save his head "

* EJ Boys - Scarfe Sgt James 481 17th L

** In 1856 the Royal Victoria Hospital Netley was built - to counter the inadequacies of existing military hospitals in Britain. The Queen laid the foundation stone of the hospital -  below the stone was a box containing coins - a Crimea medal - a Victoria Cross and a document signed by the Queen !

Wounded soldiers who met with the Queen 1855 ..... Sergeant Scarff (sic) is on this picture but I have no idea which soldier he is ..... !


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« Reply #104 on: Saturday 22 March 08 16:31 GMT (UK) »


Aimable Jean Jacques Pélissier 1st Duc de Malakoff ( November 6 1794 - May 22 1864) was a marshal of France.

In 1860 he was appointed colonial governor-general of unruly Algeria - and he died there in 1864 when his dukedom became extinct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aimable_Pélissier

Omar Pasha Latas (1806-71) was an Ottoman General of Serb origin whose birth name was Mihailo Latas (Michael Latas)

http://maviboncuk.blogspot.com/2004/06/crimean-war-omar-pasha-1806-1871.html

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Here they both are with Lord Raglan !


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« Reply #105 on: Saturday 22 March 08 18:03 GMT (UK) »


I believe these soldiers all died of wounds or disease .... so little information ..... for so great a sacrifice !  :'(

4th Light Dragoons

"In memory of CHS. HAMPSHIRE IV LD who died on the 3rd Feby 1855 aged 39 years."
(grave near Kadikoi).

* EJ Boys - Hampshire Pte Charles 745 4th LD

"Sacred to the memory of W. HAYWOOD IV L.D."
(grave near Kadikoi).

* EJ Boys - Haywood Pte William 1648 4th LD

"Sacred to the memory of Troop Serjt. Major J. THORP 4th Lt Dragoons died while serving in the Crimea."

* EJ Boys - Thorpe Pte John 1273 4th LD

"To the memory of JOHN HUNTLEY IV L.D. who died on the 9th Jany 1855."
(grave near Kadikoi)

* EJ Boys - Huntley Far John 1154 4th LD

Wonder why the 13th buried this soldier ??

12th Royal Lancers

"Sacred to the memory of Trumpet Major FRANCIS JOHNSON 12th Royal Lancers who departed this life on the 22nd Decr. 1855 in the 35th year of his age. This stone was erected by the Non Commissioned Officers of the 13th Light Dragoons as a mark of respect."
(grave at Scutari)
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« Reply #106 on: Saturday 22 March 08 19:30 GMT (UK) »


Outside Rush is Kenure Park - the residence of Sir Roger Palmer Bart who is a Lieutenant-General retired and one of the few survivors of the Balaklava charge. He is lineally descended from Miss Ambrose Lord Chesterfield's "dangerous Papist."

The Following Cartoon Appeared in the year 1880

PALMER Sir Roger William Henry BART -  'Roger' Fought at Balaklava - by Spy - the family has gone to Ireland from Norfolk in the 17th Century - shown contentedly smoking a pipe with river and swans in the background !!

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« Reply #107 on: Saturday 22 March 08 19:47 GMT (UK) »



Afterwards ..... 1856-1869 13th Light Dragoons

http://www.britishempire.co.uk/forces/armyunits/britishcavalry/13thltdragoons1778.htm

After the Crimean War the regiment stayed in Ireland, moving around from one cavalry barracks to another. In 1859 they went to Scotland and stayed at Edinburgh, Piershill and Hamilton. In 1861 they were ordered to Manchester and in 1862 they marched to Aldershot in Surrey. Around this time they were titled 13th Hussars instead of 13th Light Dragoons. They were stationed in Hounslow in 1864 and in 1865 they were divided in three and went to Ipswich in Suffolk, Northampton and Norwich. Then they seem to be all over the country - Birmingham, Newcastle and York.
In 1866 they were ordered to embark for Canada and sailed there on two ships, the Tarifa ( a screw steamer), the Europa (a paddle-wheel steamer) and the Damascus. They were sent to defend the country from a Fenian uprising. The regiment marched out of York on the 11th Sept 1866 and went to Liverpool. It was a bad voyage, lasting a week, with gales blowing most of the way. Most of the regiment went to Montreal but some went to Toronto and stayed at the New Fort and the buildings of the Crystal Palace. In the summer of 1867 there was a draft of 101 men sent over from England with one cornet and one sergeant. The first part of the regiment embarked for the return to England on 28th and 30th June 1869. They arrived in Liverpool on the 13th July.

The regiment were stationed in Toronto, Ontario, Canada between 1866 and 1869.
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