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Re: One for Liverpool Annie Part 2
« Reply #162 on: Saturday 29 March 08 16:13 GMT (UK) »
It looks like it is the same father...........it's got a bit of both our stories ;D

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Re: One for Liverpool Annie Part 2
« Reply #163 on: Saturday 29 March 08 18:12 GMT (UK) »


That pedigree is too complicated for me !!  ??? ??? ???

I think we'll just leave things as they are Phil ... and if a relative comes along .... maybe they'll tell us !!  :D :D :D

Your man was in the heavy brigade .... so more than likely the one they were talking about !!  :) :)
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« Reply #164 on: Saturday 29 March 08 18:25 GMT (UK) »


Here's another soldier with a pedigree !!  :) I found him on Harts list and the Army list ... but he doesn't seem to be on EJ Boys list .... under B D or H !!  ::) wonder if Lawrence has him ??

William Henry Beaumont de Horsey

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« Reply #165 on: Saturday 29 March 08 18:51 GMT (UK) »


Lieutenant Powell Houghton - wounded at Balaklava - 25th October 1854. died at Scutari 22nd Nov.
Son of George Powell Houghton of Kilmanock Park Co. Wexford.

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Did Calthorpe’s witnesses actually see Lieutenant Houghton, who was also wearing 11th Hussar uniform, and was retiring fatally wounded?

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Re: One for Liverpool Annie Part 2
« Reply #166 on: Saturday 29 March 08 19:31 GMT (UK) »
I can't see Beaumont de Horsey on Lawrence's list and according to the 1863 Hart's he is 1st Regiment of Foot Guards.

Do you want me to check his pedigree? ;D

Phil :)

.................And LC has Houghton as Cornet George Houghton (Casualty Rolls)
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« Reply #167 on: Saturday 29 March 08 21:35 GMT (UK) »



Now for something completely different  :D ........ though this guy has a pedigree too .... but I'm not going there !!  ::)

Armand-Octave-Marie Viscount of Allonville was born Jan. 21 1809 in Hanover and died on October 19 1867 in Versailles.

Viscount Armand-Octave-Marie d'Allonville was born to emigrant parents and acquired the reputation of being one of the best cavalry officers, during the conquest of Algeria and the Crimean War. He was appointed division general. At the end of his life he was senator, chairman of cavalry and grand'croix of the Legion of Honour.

Charge of the Light Brigade - " not an English rider would be living out of this furnace without a chivalrous impulse of General Allonville "

Armand-Octave-Marie d'Allonville and his brigade landed on Sept. 6 1853 in Varna (Bulgaria) During the Crimean campaign, he came to the rescue of English at the Charge of the Light Brigade (October 25, 1854) ....... Armand-Octave of Allonville supported Lord Cardigan steadily throughout the Battle of Balaklava.

Armand-Octave of Allonville was a member of the Military Staff Committee on 17th March 1855. The Campaign of Italy (1859) ended so quickly - leaving no time for the General Allonville to report again and soon his health increasingly shaky - forced him to relinquish his duties active in the French army. He became chairman of the Committee Cavalry - was a member of the General Council of Ille-et-Vilaine. Called on December 31 1865 to be part of the Senate ......  Oct. 19 1867 he succumbed to " breast disease " contracted at the front.

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The fact that they were spared a crossfire from the Fedioukine Hills was due to the courageous efforts of the French 1st Cavalry Brigade commander d'Allonville (commanding the 1st and 4th Regiments of the Chasseurs d'Afrique) who with the 4th Regiment cleared the Fedioukine Hills of the two half batteries of guns, two infantry battalions and Cossacks to ensure the Light Brigade would not be hit by fire from that flank




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« Reply #168 on: Saturday 29 March 08 22:43 GMT (UK) »


Marcus  Fitzell Sparling - Roger Fenton’s assistant/colleague

Marcus was born in 1826 in Ireland and became a printer by trade. He enlisted in the 4th Light Dragoons on  17 March 1846 at Hounslow Depot, West London. He was aged 20 and 5' 8" tall. He was given a bounty of £5/18/6d.  The regiment marched from London to Manchester via Banbury (Oxfordshire) in March/April. By Sept. 1846 they were in Dublin. In the spring of 1847 Marcus spent 12 days in hospital but by July had become member of the Band.  In 1850. he is said to have “constructed a field camera with ten wooden frames in a magazine”. After marrying, he left the army in 1853, paying a twenty pound bounty. He was lucky - this regiment was cut to pieces at the Charge of the Light Brigade, and his comrades in arms slaughtered.

He had four sons -  the youngest was called Omar, who apparently became a prize fighter -  killed a man in the ring and fled to America before deserting his wife and three children.. so his wife Veronica went insane and the children were committed to orphanages ........  :-\

Spurling’s book on photography Theory and Practice of the Photographic Art, was published after he came home from the Crimea in 1856. Though he had cheated death once - he did not have long to live - here are the details of his death certificate

“Marcus Sparling, male aged 39 yrs, Photographic Artist. Cause of death, Hepatitis 6 week, Palore-absess Certified. Informant Jane Ball, present at death at 57 Gerard St. Liverpool Registered on 20 April 1860.”

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« Reply #169 on: Sunday 30 March 08 03:11 BST (UK) »


Sergeant Robert Davies  b. 15th October 1828  London

Enlisted  28th November 1850 11th Hussars (Prince Albert's Own)   

Saw action at Balaklava 25th October 1854 slightly wounded     

Commissioned and rose to Lt. Colonel by 1880

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« Reply #170 on: Sunday 30 March 08 03:15 BST (UK) »

Here's one for Kenhar !

Private James  Dies    b. Manchester - an umbrella frame maker         

enlisted 9th November 1847 8th Hussars ( King's Royal Irish )   

Killed in Action at Balaklava  25th October 1854   

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