Patrish Scavenger Hunt.....Everybody Welcome to Join In.

[patrish]

Well done Deb,

I am of the mind that the Philip Phillips at 53 Whitechapel Road could well be mine and  John Palmer the Cheesemonger, I have also thought that the two families may have met that way.

If anyone can locate any deaths of Philip Phillips in roughly the right areas, I could check them out at the LMA also if Catherines draws a blank.

[deb usa]

Pat

Is there any naming rule for the 2nd son .... Emmanuel had a son , Abraham b 1852 ...I have found this will ...but don't know if it has relevance ...

thought I would post just in case:
Online Document PROB 11/2156
Will of Abraham Phillips Outfitter Shadwell , Middlesex . Will of Abraham Phillips Outfitter Shadwell , Middlesex
Date: 1852


this is interesting .....
Community:  Jewish Community
Maroon leather-bound album containing cuttings from Anglo-Jewish newspapers c 1892 to 1911 relating to distinguished Jewish men and women, institutions, events and buildings in Britain and abroad.....

Page 159, 'Men and Women of Mark' newspaper cuttings album, reference Title : C 1997.1.p159
portrait photograph of and reports on Privates Abraham and Emanuel Phillips

what do you think?

deb

[patrish]

Dont think there was anything about 2nd son, Cathayb would be able to tell us that.

The biggest problem I have is there are so many Phillip's all with the same christian names and occupations.

My lot all seems to have been involved with the tobacco industry

The book sounds very interesting I would love to read it, I wonder where I could 

[deb usa]

hi Pat

here is the link ...

http://www.movinghere.org.uk/search/catalogue.asp?RecordID=73569

deb

[patrish]

Oh thanks Deb, I will look into that. 

[DebbieG]

Information relating to document ref. no. MS 11936/485/980038
Insured: Philip Phillips 53 Whitechapel Road dealer in marine stores
Date: 1821

this is the same road as John Palmer's cheesemonger...he was at 57 whitechapel Rd.


deb

So if we think that is the correct Phillip in Whitechaple rd in 1821  this entry from 1846 could well refer to his son Emanuel - its a very specific occupation

PHILLIPS, Emanuel
marine store dealer  15 Little Coram St Brunswick Sq
P O 1846


Debbie

[patrish]

If only they were more precise on the census's instead of just putting General Dealer 

I think its a very strong possibility  with both of the names and there are not many Emmanuel's around.

[deb usa]

Hi Debbie

good find ....  

general dealer is kinda 'general' .... I agree Pat , if only they had put their trade on the censuses.... I have looked on NA for Tobacconists... not many ...only Caroline pops out !

will look further

deb

[cathayb]

sorry to but in again,but how do you get information on wills in that area.you will need to be precise.what site,what i put in to bring it up as i am quite stupid and probably senile aswell by now,thanks a billion cathayb