Patrish Scavenger Hunt.....Everybody Welcome to Join In.

[deb usa]

Hi Pat

still early morning here (7;16am) , coffee time 

just a thought ... what Emmanuel and Susanna decided to marry later in their relationship ....it just seems strange that they would keep on having kids and not get married. I know it used to happen but somehow I keep on thinking that because he was religious ( an assumption  ) he would want to make his kids 'legal'.

need more coffee and will resume the hunt ..

deb

[toni*]

when two persons of different denominations marry one party usually has to give up their faith and become the other persons faith, in which case there shoudl eb a record of them being 'taken in' by that church in this case synagouge,

perhaps Emmanuel / Susanna did legally marry but it wasn't recognised by the respective churches / synagouges etc.

[toni*]

he def. married Susanna did he   

i keep coming back to this marriage

Q3 1869
Pancras 1b 197

ACTON  Catherine   
FORTUNE  Louisa     
PHILLIPS  Emmanuel     
WHATTON  Benjamin William   


too late for your's isn't it but i thought i would ask

[patrish]

Hi Toni,

Yes,  according to 2 of the childrens  birth certificates one being my gt grandfather Jacob/John b 1859

Father Emmanuel Phillps mother Susannah Phillips formerly Palmer

He is on the 71 and 81 census as wife Susan.

[toni*]

i thought as much 

[sdbadger]

WOW!  Google Emmanuel PHILLIPS and this scavenger hunt comes up at least twice!  Just a little factoid to make your day....

I'm not finding them marrying any time between Mar 1838 and Dec 1858 ...

Sorry I'm useless....

[sdbadger]

The first marriage I find for an Emmanuel PHILLIPS is the same one toni found.

They would have married late enough that it would be a civil registration, if nothing else.

Going the gypsy route, could she have been something other than PALMER at the time of marriage?  Could she have previously married and that is the name under which she married Emmanuel?

None of which makes any sense when the earliest marriage (after Mar 1838) for an Emmanuel PHILLIPS is 1869 ... RATS!

[Tephra]

Badger..................google your people and your Scavenger Hunt will come up as well.........great isn't it          


Barbara

[deb usa]

Hi ...

back from the dentist...Katie had no cavities ...woohooo !

found this on national Archives ...wonder if he belongs ...

Online Document PROB 11/1083
Will of John Phillips Grocer Spitalfield , Middlesex . Will of John Phillips Grocer Spitalfield , Middlesex
Date: 1781.

Being that they most probably made money ... I wonder why there are not more wills on NA ?

deb