Patrish Scavenger Hunt.....Everybody Welcome to Join In.

[patrish]

I am afraid not.


Emmanuel Phillips b 1828 "married" Susan/Susannah Palmer (no legal one found)

Emmanuel Frederick b 1889 married Emma Louisa Ayrton 1882 My grandparents.

[deb usa]

can't seem to find much of Emmanuel and his family in 1891

this is a possible for Abraham b 1856 ( he has changed his age at times )
1891
40 Langdale street
St Georges
Abraham Phillips head mar age transribed as 30? cigar maker b Whitechapel
Emily wife 29 artificial flowe maker
Florence dau 6

possible marriage:
Abraham Phillips = Emily Cox
sept q 1882 Bethnal Green  

there is also an Isaac Phillips single 24 Hawker b Whitechapel ...can't remember where he was living ...arrgghhhhh


deb

[patrish]

can't seem to find much of Emmanuel and his family in 1891

Emmanuel b 1826/27 was deceased in 1876 . I suppose Susan must have died between 1881 and 1891 

Isaac is a tobacco Operator in 1881 .

I think looking forward we must take our leads from the 1881 which I know to be correct.

How do I know that, well Jacob/John has the same address on his marriage in 1882.

[deb usa]

Hi Pat

okay so this is 1881
1881
Phillip Phillip head un 26 b Spitalfields, Middx. Cigar Maker = died 1876
Susan mother widow 56 B Whitechapel  = must find her death betw 1881-1891
Abraham brother un 23 b Middx City Cigar Maker = poss. married Emily Cox
Jacob brother un 21 b Middx City Cigar Maker = Pat's direct family
Isaac brother un 19 b Middx City, Tobacco Operator = ??
Catherine sister un 17 b Middx City Tailoress.  = ??

did you see the Philip living with samuel and hannah in 1901 ...see summary ...who is he ? 

deb

[patrish]

yes Deb but I have not traced any grandchildren yet only the ones of my direct descendant John and Emma Louisa.

[davidpinkney]

Hey all, i'm back! Have not had much time for this recently! Shame on me 

This may help, unless we already have it?

1851

8 Hutchison Avenue, St Botolph Aldgate, Middlesex

Isaac Abrahams - head - 40 - Logwood cutter - London
Martha Abrahams - wife - 40 - General Dealer - ditto
Maria Abrahams - dau - 13 - house servant - ditto
Israel? Abrahams - son - 9 - ditto
Joseph Abrahams - son - 7 - ditto
Mark Abrahams - son - 2 - ditto
Angel Abrahams - 6mths - ditto
Abraham Levy - lodger - unm - 17 - Porter - ditto
Sarah Martin - lodger - unm - 9 - ditto
Maria Martin - lodger - unm - 7 - ditto
Samuel Phillips - lodger - mar - 18 - General Dealer - ditto
Hannah Phillips - lodger - mar - 19 - Turner? - ditto
Phillip Phillips - lodger son - 1 day  - ditto (got to be the best way to find when he was born)
Samuel Joseph - lodger - 40 - Hawker - ditto
Sarah Joseph - lodge - 38 - ditto
+ 3 Joseph children and James Agar aged 41 (born at sea) + wife and 2 kids

HO107/1524 folio 246 pg 56

[toni*]

Hi David

long time no speak hope you have been keeping well,

i am pretty much stuck on this hunt finding births etc i just can't seem to do it!

am looking though

[cathayb]

does that bring  ?? phillips marriage to the martins girl back into play?

[patrish]

Well done David 

Thats def Samuel & Hannah Levy, and true to form,  first son a Philip.

Hannah's occupation looks like Furrier to me. 

It would seem that the Phillips, Levy and Martins are a very close bunch.

I really not sure Cathayb ......... Abigail Martins father was Aaron Martin.