Burial records Cork / Military cemetery Barrackton 1880-90

[brionne]

Thanks Mary,its not confirmed yet that they are in Deans Grange,will make contact directly with the manager shortly.Its certainly possible that Lucy McPherson could be there,in the name of HOLMAN,she is supposed to have come from a well known French business family,and definitely spoke French according to her daughter who actually gave me this info in the 1960s,when visiting us in Wiltshire.This daughter is also buried there.       [ It does not answer the question why the surname McPherson was not used.]
or why Kew Records flatly deny any knowledge of Thomas Holman McPherson even being in the Royal Engineers,or Army generally,in spite of his name being on other records,1861,1871,RE School at Woolwich,marriage certificate etc.No Army Records having ever been found in spite of 2 researchers looking for them,and myself.
Yes, he did drown,I have an Irish Death Cert copy which I obtained  myself in Lombard St,Dub.This was my initial starting point,years ago.Strangely there is no Army death record for him,as he was still serving when the new son Charles was born in 1886,an Army Chaplain baptised the child at Cahir.RE Depot 2/12/1886,as son of Thomas and Fanny McPherson.
The Presbyterian Pastor in Cork has been most helpful,and thinks they are probably buried in the Military Cemetery,now long gone as you know,they do not appear on the list of names taken from headstones and later records for this cemetery,and I know that Kew do not have any records for it either.This cemetery was largely abandoned after 1922,and never taken over by the British Commonwealth War Graves Commision,there are other Irish buried there,plus the fact that any records may well have been destroyed in the Dublin fire.

Thanks again for your interest,Brionne.

[brionne]

 More info,,,,,,      Deans Grange Cemetery Black Rock very kindly replied today,unfortunately the possible couple I found there,turned out to be children.
So the search for the burial place of Thomas Holman McPherson and his first wife Lucy McPherson is still unresolved.

Brionne.

[brionne]

Am now able to confirm that Thomas McPherson Quarter Master Sergeant and Fanny Otter married at
Trinity Presbyterian Church Cork City on 8th January 1886 by License.His father John McPherson, Weaver,
brides father William Cook, Farmer.
Still no burial record for Thomas anywhere,but as he was definitely still serving in the Royal Engineers,at time of his death,he must be in the Military cemetery with also first wife Lucy Ann.Second wife Fanny McPherson died age 73,widow, 14th Dec 1928, St Marys Cottages, Drogheda,informant son George Otter.

Brionne.

[brionne]

Dincur has very kindly found the following death for a MacPherson published,,,,from[ FindMyPast.]

                      Manchester Evening News Saturday 3rd December 1887
                      The dead body of Quartermaster Sergeant MacPherson,
                      stationed at Fort Camden,Cork,was discovered on the strand
                      near Grabell Bay yesterday afternoon.

Now just need to find where he is buried
Brionne

[brionne]

Well its six years since my last post and still no sign of the burial records for this couple,in the Cork area.
As there has been an ever increasing amount of information re Irish Records coming on line, just wonder if there are any new records which may include one or either of these two.
   Thomas McPherson/or Lucy Ann M Pherson.
Pretty sure these were lost in the Dublin fire,but would some kind person have yet another look,Many thanks in advance,Brionne.

[hallmark]

If you go to

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

and do this Search you will find his Death registration  (Kinsale)

[hallmark]

   http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ns2/  gets one  Death results for McPherson anywhere

BUT if you look through them there is a Lucy on Page 2

Name   LUCY MCPHERSON
Date of Death   1885
Group Registration ID   6064643
SR District/Reg Area   Cork
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1885/06292/4803234.pdf

which MIGHT be your Lucy

plus if you look through them you might get Parents etc...

You can also Select Cork ones from List on Left or any known locations

[hallmark]

There was a Post Mortem...so might get clues from Newspaper items?

[brionne]

Many thanks for your time Hallmark.
I obtained both death certificates many years ago.
Have had a lot of past help too regarding Presbyterian Churches in the Cork area c 1885/7.
Assume that Lucy may be be buried in the Military Cemetery,close to the Barracks,[as thats where she died,]now a recreation area.I actually visited this cemetery long ago,when it had a large hole blown in an outside wall,and a lot of the headstones were still insitu, the whole area badly hit by vandals.
Kew have always denied having any Thomas M PHERSON records or EVEN THAT HE WAS IN THE BRITISH ARMY, I have proved that he was a QMS ROYAL ENGINEERS,stationed at Fort Camden at the time of his drowning December 1887.There had been a court case earlier 1887 when he went Absent without leave.
Checked also for PM results when once at Cork Library,but none where ever kept for this period.